Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

DuckDuckGo AI Chat

duckduckgo.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

131–140 of 165 posts

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#131

Post by mistrial9 »

dkersten wrote: post #93
mostlysimilar wrote: post #81

God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

Agreed. Additionally, I don’t actually want to talk to my computer for most use cases. When I do, then I’ll use a dedicated service like ChatGPT, but for most other take, I really really don’t want a chat interface. I wish these companies would focus on making their core product better instead of spending resources on AI chat interfaces.

management and investors wants AI chat; coincidentally it appeals to the lazy and less-intellectual

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#132

Post by MadcapJake »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #95
mostlysimilar wrote: post #81

God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

I just don't want to search the web. I have questions and I want answers- searching the web is an intermediate step, not the end solution. I have Question X and the answer isn't to surface "Blog Post Y"... it's the content of Blog Post Y I need, and only the subset of the content that answers my question, perhaps synthesized with the content of 5 other blog posts, a couple scientific papers and a recent press release…

Search is pretty horrible these days imo.

My main fear with AI becoming our go-to information retrieval platform is how can we be sure that the answer is objective truth without any slant? Shouldn't there be an ethical obligation that a model should not only fact check but also provide alternative theories? We lost that somewhere in journalism but we could regain that if we prioritized that the thinking and deciding still needs to occur human-side.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#133

Post by nikolay »

I stopped using DuckDuckGo long ago until they stopped being what they were supposed to be. Obviously, I'm not alone in this, as they are looking for financial means to stay afloat!

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#134

Post by lelandfe »

MadcapJake wrote: post #132
unsupp0rted wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't want to search the web. I have questions and I want answers- searching the web is an intermediate step, not the end solution. I have Question X and the answer isn't to surface "Blog Post Y"... it's the content of Blog Post Y I need, and only the subset of the content that answers my question, perhaps synthesized with the content of 5 other blog posts, a couple scientific papers and a recent press release…

Search is pretty horrible these days imo. My main fear with AI becoming our go-to information retrieval platform is how can we be sure that the answer is objective truth without any slant? Shouldn't there be an ethical obligation that a model should not only fact check but also provide alternative theories? We lost that somewhere in journalism but we could regain that if we prioritized that the thinking and deciding…

Go try to ask any of these hosted LLM bots about sexual topics to find out how far from objectivity we are. I earned a stern warning after trying to write a dirty pun with ChatGPT

Imagine trying to do research on sexually transmitted diseases, or trying to self-educate about sex. Unfortunately the limits put in place are quite coarse today.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#135

Post by nikolay »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #98
doublerabbit wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That now costs $10 (Kagi) Complex AI for free, basic search for a fee!

I'm a current Kagi subscriber and agree the search is excellent. Unfortunately Kagi is also wasting their time on AI bullshit, so I suspect it's a short-lived oasis.

I also didn't use Kagi AI until I found out that I get a better deal with them for the rare cases I need to use AI.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#136

Post by Alifatisk »

yegg wrote: post #73
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, Claude instant is part of Anthropic's first generation of models. There have been two more since then. Today (3rd gen) they have haiku, sonnet, opus. Worth checking out. Opus is competitive (many say better) than GPT-4

We plan to upgrade Claude Instant to Claude 3 Haiku in the coming weeks.

Is Claude 3 Opus a possibility?

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#139

Post by freediver »

yegg wrote: post #59
danpalmer wrote: post #5

What's the business model on this? GPT3.5 and Claude 1.2 aren't as expensive as other models, but they're not cheap. Is this going to get pulled later, monetised, etc? It's concerning in general to see so many companies throwing so much money at this without business models. The big names mostly have either premium tiers or paid API usage, that's fine, but DDG/Brave/BingChat/Arc/etc are all just giving away money, an…

The plan is to maintain free anonymous access to base models, with eventually search better integrated as well. We'd also like to experiment with providing anonymous access to more cutting-edge models as part of Privacy Pro.

The first steps towards DuckDuckGo assuming a paid business model. Love it!

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#140

Post by [deleted] »

troyvit wrote: post #67
MitPitt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDG has terrible reputation, what are you talking about. From sharing user data with Microsoft, to hiding websites in search due to political bias

You're getting downvoted pretty heavily. Do you have sources for that? I did a quick search on Kagi and couldn't find anything to support what you say.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN