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Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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What is a women? GPT-3.5 Turbo A woman is an adult female human being. Claude 1.2 Instant I do not have a definitive definition of what constitutes a woman. Gender identity is a complex topic with personal aspects.

Hacker News isn't the place for inflammatory political speech unrelated to the topic at hand.

Your own post constitutes "inflammatory political speech".

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

That now costs $10 (Kagi)

Complex AI for free, basic search for a fee!

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

Agreed. Additionally, I don’t actually want to talk to my computer for most use cases. When I do, then I’ll use a dedicated service like ChatGPT, but for most other take, I really really don’t want a chat interface.

I wish these companies would focus on making their core product better instead of spending resources on AI chat interfaces.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Being DDG, with its reputation, I’m sure these chats really are never saved - but the wording in the sidebar: never saved by us, and not used to train AI models could make the more paranoid believe that they could be saved by DDG’s partners - from very directly (Anthropic saves chats with Claude) to indirectly (all channeled through a shady arms-length subsidiary).

DDG has terrible reputation, what are you talking about. From sharing user data with Microsoft, to hiding websites in search due to political bias

DDG never pretended to be unbiased. They have all the same policy decisions around artificial boosting/throttling as google without the tracking.

In their golden era search engines were essentially super sophisticated keyword matching. Users used to find novel websites from passionate people. Now it's becoming more of a social media feed of the same 100 website where you train it what you like.

This is exactly why search is so vulnerable to disruption from LLMs.

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God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

I just don't want to search the web. I have questions and I want answers- searching the web is an intermediate step, not the end solution.

I have Question X and the answer isn't to surface "Blog Post Y"... it's the content of Blog Post Y I need, and only the subset of the content that answers my question, perhaps synthesized with the content of 5 other blog posts, a couple scientific papers and a recent press release.

We're now in this temporary zone where "just searching the web" is still the optimal way to get answers, while search engine companies are piling into other stuff.

But very shortly that other stuff will become our go-to.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Private meaning that they don't store the chat sessions? We don't store them either unless you really want to. Am I missing something?

And they have agreements with the providers not to use your chats for training, and to delete them after 30 days (I believe).

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

That now costs $10 (Kagi) Complex AI for free, basic search for a fee!

I'm a current Kagi subscriber and agree the search is excellent. Unfortunately Kagi is also wasting their time on AI bullshit, so I suspect it's a short-lived oasis.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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God damn it people. I just want to search the web. You aren't doing anything meaningful by giving me yet another fuzzy robot question machine. Just let me search the web. Queries in, web pages out.

A lot of the time you aren't searching for "web pages". You are searching for answers, to get to which you'd have to dig through piles of web pages for an hour. Technology already exists to give you a direct answer in 95% of the time (with references), it just results in fewer ads shown to you, so search engines aren't interested in integrating it properly.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine, but this is a full chat interface rather than AI search results.

While Brave Search does include AI search results, they also include Leo in their browser which is a full chat interface as well. Baked right into the browser and sidebar.

For clarity it is not a local llm.
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