DuckDuckGo AI Chat

#1

Post by maltalex » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 1:27 PM UTC

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#2

Post by NayamAmarshe » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:06 PM UTC

Pretty cool! I use Brave Search (https://search.brave.com) and it too got AI results a few months ago. They're quite helpful!

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Post by dougb5 » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:07 PM UTC

"Welcome to DuckDuckGo AI Chat! This chat session is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 Turbo. All of your chats here are private, and are never stored by DuckDuckGo or used to train AI models."

Wait, they are sent to OpenAI but they are also "private"? What am I missing here?

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by olvy0 » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:11 PM UTC

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #2

Pretty cool! I use Brave Search ( https://search.brave.com ) and it too got AI results a few months ago. They're quite helpful!

Fine, but this is a full chat interface rather than AI search results.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by danpalmer » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:11 PM UTC

What's the business model on this? GPT3.5 and Claude 1.2 aren't as expensive as other models, but they're not cheap. Is this going to get pulled later, monetised, etc?

It's concerning in general to see so many companies throwing so much money at this without business models. The big names mostly have either premium tiers or paid API usage, that's fine, but DDG/Brave/BingChat/Arc/etc are all just giving away money, and when the music stops it's possible consumers will be left high and dry.

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Post by derwiki » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:14 PM UTC

It’s probably table stakes for a search engine at this point. For me though, they all came too late, and I am mostly rewired to go to chatgpt first.

(Yes, chatgpt can be wrong, but for things like recipes, song lyrics, etc it’s never wrong enough to matter)

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by marban » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:17 PM UTC

It would be best for DDG to sell before they are steamrolled from multiple fronts.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by weberer » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:17 PM UTC

derwiki wrote: post #6

It’s probably table stakes for a search engine at this point. For me though, they all came too late, and I am mostly rewired to go to chatgpt first. (Yes, chatgpt can be wrong, but for things like recipes, song lyrics, etc it’s never wrong enough to matter)

This is a frontend to GPT-3.5 that protects your privacy. This isn't a new model by DuckDuckGo.

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by jrmg » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:20 PM UTC

Being DDG, with its reputation, I’m sure these chats really are never saved - but the wording in the sidebar:

never saved by us, and not used to train AI models

could make the more paranoid believe that they could be saved by DDG’s partners - from very directly (Anthropic saves chats with Claude) to indirectly (all channeled through a shady arms-length subsidiary).

Re: DuckDuckGo AI Chat

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Post by mephitix » Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 2:22 PM UTC

dougb5 wrote: post #3

"Welcome to DuckDuckGo AI Chat! This chat session is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3.5 Turbo. All of your chats here are private, and are never stored by DuckDuckGo or used to train AI models." Wait, they are sent to OpenAI but they are also "private"? What am I missing here?

I guess they mean that the chat conversations are not persisted in a DDG database. A bit misleading IMO