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Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by throwaway894345 »

gattilorenz wrote: post #51
throwaway894345 wrote: post #26

For anyone interested, Battlefield 1 is a world war 1 game available for every platform, and it’s one of the best games in the franchise! It’s about 6 years old now, but still active and stupidly cheap. I highly recommend it to anyone with an interest or even casual curiosity in WWI.

There's an upcoming game, Isonzo, that is a continuation of Verdun, and will probably be quite realistic (Battlefield 1 is fun, but very... Creatively based on WWI) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYv8KyNRFQM&ab_channel=IGN

Yeah, it's kind of hard to make an interesting and realistic game when people were mostly chilling in trenches. That said, the maps are beautiful, and the gameplay is a whole lot of fun.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by londons_explore »

patentatt wrote: post #111
rypskar wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not enough to produce them, you also need to get them close to the front. The logistics of transporting millions of tons ammunition outside of normal trading routes should not be underestimated

Just happened to be listening to Dan Carlin's hardcore history about WWI. From memory, the Germans would build multiple railway lines to the front to supply a large offensive like this. And then they'd spend weeks stockpiling ammunition and food using those multiple railway lines. At times this conferred a large advantage to the Germans as parts of the Allies side would be supplied by a single road vs. multiple railw…

Building multiple railway lines is also a safety thing - you don't want to leave a whole section of your troops unsupplied just because some train is hit by a shell and wrecked blocking the tracks.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by bombcar »

manmal wrote: post #42
UIUC_06 wrote: post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

I think it’s tastefully made, and doesn’t make light of the war at all. Lego can be a neutral medium to express ideas, like play dough or wooden figurines.

It also lets you experience the horror of the war whilst being disconnected from it - the difference between https://thebricktestament.com/the_life_of_jesus/the_crucifix... and watching The Passion of the Christ.

Seeing a stand-in for humans may let you watch it further than you would be inclined to if it were actual humans (or live footage).

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by holoduke »

rypskar wrote: post #107
londons_explore wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you design a factory to make shells quickly, each production line can probably do 1 shell per second (they're not so different from big bullets, and those are made very rapidly). 11 of those lines and you can be keeping up that rate forever.

It's not enough to produce them, you also need to get them close to the front. The logistics of transporting millions of tons ammunition outside of normal trading routes should not be underestimated

Logistics are invented during ww1. Same for canned food. Boxing material and more.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by holoduke »

InCityDreams wrote: post #98
holoduke wrote: post #57

Every year I visit various ww1 battle sites in northern France and Italy. We walk through endless farm lands to find information about certain events. We often stumble upon ammunition and steel scrap. The land is literally filled with shells, bullets, scrapnel everywhere. Some are still live and just brought to the top of the soil by farm tractor machinery. The amount of shells fired at the battle of as Verdun is so…

"...scrapnel everywhere...". The correct term is 'shrapnel', but your 'scrapnel' means so much more. /'Scrap', being the root of the word.

Yeah you are right. English is not my native language.

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Post by wiz21c »

Steve44 wrote: post #94
jsmcgd wrote: post #84

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2M shells in 48 hrs is 11.5 shells a second.

I watched a documentary a little while ago which described the sound as a constant drum-roll during these barrages. I don't have sound at the moment but think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hscEoupkqv4 is something similar. The scale of these attacks is mind boggling. > A barrage like this is referred to as "drumfire" by veterans to describe artillery that is so constant, unceasing and uninterrupted, that it sounds…

In these days of elite, small squads as shown on television, this is a stark reminder that war is incredibly, literally unbelievably, savage thing.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by UIUC_06 »

UIUC_06 wrote: post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

All you people talking about how it's "educational": I'm doubling down here.

Dumbing down history to the level of modern day action figures because "the kids can relate to it" is missing the point of "reading history." It's to realize that the past was not like now.

Yes, it takes an effort to get the kids off their phones and pay attention to something other than each other. No one said teaching was easy.

I'm sure it IS hard to make them realize that they didn't have cell phones, Internet, or flush toilets out there, and when a soldier was wounded, he suffered, screaming and thirsty, often for hours, and they didn't have good medical care for him when he was finally stretchered off. Somehow throughout history, some teachers and parents have managed to do it.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by davidkunz »

InCityDreams wrote: post #98
holoduke wrote: post #57

Every year I visit various ww1 battle sites in northern France and Italy. We walk through endless farm lands to find information about certain events. We often stumble upon ammunition and steel scrap. The land is literally filled with shells, bullets, scrapnel everywhere. Some are still live and just brought to the top of the soil by farm tractor machinery. The amount of shells fired at the battle of as Verdun is so…

"...scrapnel everywhere...". The correct term is 'shrapnel', but your 'scrapnel' means so much more. /'Scrap', being the root of the word.

I like that neologism, very fitting.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by kergonath »

stavros wrote: post #126
kergonath wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of being a child. My daughter would not be seen dead with a Barbie (a doll anyway, she really enjoys the other kind).

Klaus Barbie? The Butcher of Lyon?

Haha no, that’s Aussie slang for “barbecue”.
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