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Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by egypturnash »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #13
bluetomcat wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as themed sets go, Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness in the last 30 years. Police chasing the bad guys to put them in a prison cell, pirates wanting to plunder the treasure, ninjas riding heavily-armed aircraft.

Are you criticizing Lego for producing what sells? Aren’t they producing what our culture wants? Do you think a wokeness set would sell as well as a pirate set?

There was a time when Lego was pretty solidly pacifist in what they chose to make. Sure, you could make a gun out of your bricks, but they didn’t make plans for them, or special parts.

Over time this has changed. There is an entire page on Wikipedia dedicated to chronicling this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_Lego

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by tgv »

cyberpunk wrote: post #19
dylan604 wrote: post #4

"The Battle of Verdun showed the strength and determination of the French, and revealed to the world the chaos and destructiveness of modern war." Based on the jokes from WWII, they must have not recovered that tenacity in time. "We have these gently used WWII French rifles. They've only been dropped once"

No one in Europe makes such jokes, the French fought like lions. Of course, our friends across the pond also think state healthcare is communism, and republicans are “literally” nazis so, I wouldn’t truck too much with such statements.

We do make such jokes. Not about WW1, though. But the reputation of the French was heavily tainted by their failure to check Germany in the interbellum and the Vichy regime.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by UIUC_06 »

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too?

Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by MichaelMoser123 »

cyberpunk wrote: post #19
dylan604 wrote: post #4

"The Battle of Verdun showed the strength and determination of the French, and revealed to the world the chaos and destructiveness of modern war." Based on the jokes from WWII, they must have not recovered that tenacity in time. "We have these gently used WWII French rifles. They've only been dropped once"

No one in Europe makes such jokes, the French fought like lions. Of course, our friends across the pond also think state healthcare is communism, and republicans are “literally” nazis so, I wouldn’t truck too much with such statements.

France lost an awful lot of men in WW1, however they could not do it alone. The allies almost lost the war with the Ludendorf offensive in spring 1918, however the USA saved the day when the expeditionary force got to two million soldiers in the summer of 1918.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by kybernetyk »

UIUC_06 wrote: post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

>Is there Lego Auschwitz, too?

IIRC there is. A polish artist created an Auschwitz Lego Set a few years ago. (IIRC with Lego's blessing)

https://culture.pl/en/work/lego-concentration-camp-zbigniew-...

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by throwaway894345 »

For anyone interested, Battlefield 1 is a world war 1 game available for every platform, and it’s one of the best games in the franchise! It’s about 6 years old now, but still active and stupidly cheap. I highly recommend it to anyone with an interest or even casual curiosity in WWI.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by RalfWausE »

cyberpunk wrote: post #19
dylan604 wrote: post #4

"The Battle of Verdun showed the strength and determination of the French, and revealed to the world the chaos and destructiveness of modern war." Based on the jokes from WWII, they must have not recovered that tenacity in time. "We have these gently used WWII French rifles. They've only been dropped once"

No one in Europe makes such jokes, the French fought like lions. Of course, our friends across the pond also think state healthcare is communism, and republicans are “literally” nazis so, I wouldn’t truck too much with such statements.

Oh, of course we make such jokes... my grandfather who spend a real good time in france sure did...

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by kergonath »

UIUC_06 wrote: post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

> the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe

Even more reasons to remember it. It’s also a law of nature: anything that can be remade in Lego bricks eventually will be. Resistance is futile.

(Besides the fact that this is how someone uses their free time without hurting anyone, so I have a really hard time getting outraged about it)

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by kergonath »

bluetomcat wrote: post #7
usrusr wrote: post #3

Lego depicting war is so depressing... (well, except for Lego Star Wars of course, somehow that seems to pass both the corporate and my personal "no way toys!" filters)

As far as themed sets go, Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness in the last 30 years. Police chasing the bad guys to put them in a prison cell, pirates wanting to plunder the treasure, ninjas riding heavily-armed aircraft.

Is that it, are we back at “video games cause murders”-level pearl clutching?

I’ll take a peer-reviewed cohort study before I believe that “Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness”.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Post by kergonath »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #17
bluetomcat wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as themed sets go, Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness in the last 30 years. Police chasing the bad guys to put them in a prison cell, pirates wanting to plunder the treasure, ninjas riding heavily-armed aircraft.

Pirates, knights, ninjas, cops and robbers, etc. are part of being a boy. Girls have Barbie.

Part of being a child. My daughter would not be seen dead with a Barbie (a doll anyway, she really enjoys the other kind).
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