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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by utrack »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #104
auslegung wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re probably right, but it’s possible that the environment is such in Russia right now that this could be impactful. From what I’ve been reading and seeing, the Russian people are more willing now than ever to protest and question their government. Those who are on the fence may actually be swayed by a random call like this, but only if they are already suspicious of the information the Russian government is showi…

Is this a joke? Putin is wildly popular because he 'stands up to the west' and had presided over economic prosperity. He got away with blowing up four apartment buildings, with plain-as-day evidence showing the bombings were conducted by the FSB. The population didn't care. They didn't care when he went around assassinating people outside the country. Didn't care when he invaded Crimea. Chicken in the pot, car in the…

> There wasn't any "anti-war" sentiment until the sanctions started kicking in.

LMAO, sorry, but you have absolutely no effing clue what you're talking about. Russia and Ukraine are very interconnected, almost everyone has friends and relatives on the other side. Anti war sentiment was there long before 24th of February.

If you're speaking about news coverage in the US, well, that's another story. Even in western EU, there was a lot of commotion since January.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by sega_sai »

throwaway290 wrote: post #39
forlorn wrote: post #24

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I don't think there is much one can do on their own. Even our relatives can't help because most countries closed their borders and aerospace and tech firms are not inclined to hire Russians right now. I for one could not get any kind of ways to evacuate.

Countries did not close borders to regular citizens. Unless your insist on flying a Russian airline, you can leave and apply for residence or even asylum (if you are against the war, you are under threat of political prosecution).

not exactly true. In retaliation to prohibiting Russian airlines in their airspace, Russia in turn prohibited the airlines of other countries in Russia. So right now you can fly to some Soviet republics, Turkey, Israel, South Korea and that's it I think.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by gruez »

xwdv wrote: post #93
AlfeG wrote: post #83

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- Hey stop this train! - I can't its very heavy it will kill me if I try - Ohh, then you are on the train side! That's how I see request to Russians to stop Putin. Also hey Russians, we rob all you money in online services and stop those services to work for you. Stop this train!

Putin is not a train, he is only a man, and can be killed.

He has the entire Russian security forces protecting him. For a random person going against him is quite close to standing in front of a train.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by mdoms »

azangru wrote: post #117
xdennis wrote: post #91

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Must Russians don't even know there's a war. Even a bad call could trigger some to look up what's happening.

> Must Russians don't even know there's a war. How can you know this?

This is misinformation peddled by Russian sympthisers in the West.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by uxp100 »

NoGravitas wrote: post #63
alkonaut wrote: post #56

Why aren't russians telling eachother? At least a fraction of russians read and trust trustworthy (international) news sources, but if their peers won't believe them, why would they believe me if I called them? Russia isn't North Korea. Yes there has been a tightening lately and all easily accessible media has been propaganda for a long time. But that doesn't mean any Russian can't - with some effort - consume a wide…

> Russians have a responsibility to protest the regime now, carrying the personal risk despite perhaps having little to no personal responsibility. Else they have the blood of Ukrainians on their hands. Back in 2003, Americans had a responsibility to protest the Bush regime. And hundreds of thousands of us did, but it didn't do a damn bit of good. We still have the blood of over one million Iraqis on our hands. Russi…

> And hundreds of thousands of us did I think more than that, right? Millions across the US, probably some individual protests were in the hundreds of thousands? Largest protests ever until recently? It was a bit of a coalition too. General anti-war activists, weirdo far-left maoists with their pamphlets, paleocons, libertarians talking about peak oil, and plenty of us regular ass liberals. And we didn't make any difference.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by ffhhj »

avh02 wrote: post #79
ffhhj wrote: post #17

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That would make it seem more suspicious! Phone company logs, remember?

On the spot, at a checkpoint? I mean it's obviously possible but is it likely to happen on random inspection? (Serious question, I don't know in Russia, definitely not in other places)

Why wouldn't a police-state have a way to check phone logs from the phone network they control? Police in most countries can query number plates on the spot, it would be similar for phone calls if their laws admit it.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by jl6 »

malka wrote: post #101
lofatdairy wrote: post #96

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To be honest I find the notion of "We" here to be rather dubious. Russia and Ukraine are at war, and while us private citizens of the broader English-speaking world can condemn one side, and support the other, pushing others towards the belief that this is somehow a total war and that every action is justifiable seems patently false.

Russia has been pushing far right, and attempt to disrupt politics in my country for years. They have gotten Schroder on their payroll so he would sabotage german and Europe energy. Now, they have been threatening western Europe with nukes. Yes, we are clearly at war with Russia.

Words mean something. We are not at war with Russia.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by bmitc »

tpoacher wrote: post #41
tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

PS. For anyone not getting the 'I have pen' quote, it's a reference to this internet classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o8XMlL8rqY :)

I wonder if there's a correlation to how often "it's no problem" is uttered to how likely it actually is a problem.

I never relax when someone tries to assure me with the "it's no problem" tactic.

I was once contacted by a person claiming to be from Dell about a technical support request I was supposedly on for a company I no longer worked for. After informing the person I didn't work for the company they were referring to, I was informed it was "no problem", and they continued on whatever they were talking about.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by azangru »

tada131 wrote: post #129
junon wrote: post #103

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Russia has completely blocked the outside world. So no, that wouldn't work.

Blocked when?

During the first several days. When the outside world pulled Russian news channels off air and, possibly, blocked them on social media (I don't remember if that's what Facebook did); and started DDoSing its servers.
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