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If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by xdennis »

tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

Must Russians don't even know there's a war. Even a bad call could trigger some to look up what's happening.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by pyronik19 »

rini17 wrote: post #46

I am from Czechoslovakia, trying to imagine what would happen in 1980s if people then were getting unexpected political calls from unknown foreigners. They would mostly assume it is a secret service provocation and react accordingly. Yes that's hard to believe for westerners that your own state would do such nasty stuff to you, but it was commonplace then. Shortwave radio station that is possible to tune to in Moscow…

>Yes that's hard to believe for westerners that your own state would do such nasty stuff to you, but it was commonplace then.

We are just about there ourselves. FBI labeling political opposition of domestic terrorist is kicking it off, replete with false flag operations and political prisoners.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by xwdv »

AlfeG wrote: post #83
alkonaut wrote: post #56

Why aren't russians telling eachother? At least a fraction of russians read and trust trustworthy (international) news sources, but if their peers won't believe them, why would they believe me if I called them? Russia isn't North Korea. Yes there has been a tightening lately and all easily accessible media has been propaganda for a long time. But that doesn't mean any Russian can't - with some effort - consume a wide…

- Hey stop this train! - I can't its very heavy it will kill me if I try - Ohh, then you are on the train side! That's how I see request to Russians to stop Putin. Also hey Russians, we rob all you money in online services and stop those services to work for you. Stop this train!

Putin is not a train, he is only a man, and can be killed.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by xdennis »

wbsss4412 wrote: post #38
javert wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This suggestion amounts to letting Ukrainian citizens die to avoid a miniscule chance of getting a Russian citizen arrested.

Because unsolicited phone calls from people in the west is all that’s needed to stop the war.

What are you doing better?

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by onemoresoop »

asats wrote: post #44

If you want to help the protest movements in Russia, support the russian opposition, NGO's that provide help to people arrested during demonstrations (13750 as of today) https://ovdinfo.org/ , and independent journalists who are currently escaping the country to continue their work abroad in relative safety. Calling random people, messing with the russian internet, targeting the russian opposition/journalists escapin…

While I agree that helping the opposition is be the best move think of the rhetoric Kremlin would spin up: they'd claim the west is interfering with their internal affairs and should the opposition ever win any elections they'd quickly arrest them for plotting a coup.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by lofatdairy »

malka wrote: post #78
WinterMount223 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you okay with getting individuals possibly arrested in the name of a purported common good? You are no better than the FSB itself then.

We are at war. > You are no better than the FSB itself then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

To be honest I find the notion of "We" here to be rather dubious. Russia and Ukraine are at war, and while us private citizens of the broader English-speaking world can condemn one side, and support the other, pushing others towards the belief that this is somehow a total war and that every action is justifiable seems patently false.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by bombcar »

dmix wrote: post #67
codedokode wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All phone calls and text messages in Russia must be recorded and stored for at least 6 months according to the law. Also, about 1 month worth of Internet traffic is also recorded.

Interesting, they are at least honest about it... I've always wondered how good nation states are at converting the speech to text. In my experience working with stuff like Twilio it can be a challenge to do it at scale when trying to identify individual speakers then generating a screenplay like output.

I assume they are at least as good at is as Zoom is, and Zoom transcripts are frighteningly good.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by 99_00 »

lostcolony wrote: post #7
99_00 wrote: post #4

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If only someone was there, able to take pictures and report on it! You know, like all the news organizations across the world. Or refugees were streaming out of the area with horror stories. And satellite pictures and spy planes showed Russian troop movements. And the tyrant of Russia even said he was sending troops into another sovereign country, while contextualizing it under an obviously false narrative (that woul…

>Get out of here with however many worthless rubles you're getting paid.

You're triggered because I have a different opinion. It's coming from fear and pain. I feel nothing but compassion for you right now.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by xdennis »

decremental wrote: post #35

No one thought about or cared about Ukraine a month ago. Now it's everyone's greatest cause of their lives. Meanwhile, I'm certain there are many atrocities the ruling class isn't forcing your focus on that you don't care about at all. All of this feigned outrage is so fake.

Even if what you say is true (and it's not), it's better to see feigned outrage rather than sincere indifference to human suffering.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by xdennis »

dncornholio wrote: post #32

I'm sorry for mentioning this but so far the content on HN about Ukraine has been of very low quality. Today only a 'call Russia' and a 'Putin is actually smart' post. I hoped to find many interesting developments, but HN has been awfully quiet on this war (for good reasons probably), but the content that has been posted has been mediocre IMHO.

Sorry to hear that the content this war is producing isn't entertaining enough for you.
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