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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by fouc »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #14
josephwegner wrote: post #12

I would probably advise against doing this. There have been rumors of Russian police looking through citizen's phones for indications that they are engaging with western viewpoints on the "special operation". And the penalty for such activities is quite high right now. A random phone call from a U.S. citizen might look suspicious, and I don't imagine Russian police are giving much benefit of the doubt right now.

This is an awfully dangerous game, but if Russians started getting phone calls from Americans en mass, could that actually provide cover for everyone?

Well there's 144 million Russians. That's a lot of phone numbers to call. Probably need to call at least 5 million of them for it to be effective cover?

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by dncornholio »

I'm sorry for mentioning this but so far the content on HN about Ukraine has been of very low quality. Today only a 'call Russia' and a 'Putin is actually smart' post. I hoped to find many interesting developments, but HN has been awfully quiet on this war (for good reasons probably), but the content that has been posted has been mediocre IMHO.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by tomc1985 »

VictorPath wrote: post #15
lostcolony wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only someone was there, able to take pictures and report on it! You know, like all the news organizations across the world. Or refugees were streaming out of the area with horror stories. And satellite pictures and spy planes showed Russian troop movements. And the tyrant of Russia even said he was sending troops into another sovereign country, while contextualizing it under an obviously false narrative (that woul…

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All propaganda. It goes both ways!

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by gruez »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #9
late2part wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://blog.feedspot.com/ukraine_blogs/ https://ukraineworld.org/ https://ukraineworld.org/podcasts/ep-74 Ep. № 74: 11 days of war: Russia tortures civilians, Ukraine begs to close the skies March 6, 2022 Russia continues to torture civilians and shell humanitarian corridors, breaking earlier commitments to let civilians to evacuate from war-torn cities. Ukraine is begging NATO to close the skies over the country or…

What they're doing is quite medieval. They're encircling cities, cutting them off, then shelling them into oblivion, cutting off food and resources. Literally a modern day Roman siege.

>What they're doing is quite medieval. They're encircling cities, cutting them off, then shelling them into oblivion, cutting off food and resources.

Yeah, that's how sieges work. The concept might have been around for ages, but so has warfare and we don't call them (eg. us invasion of iraq) "quite medieval".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege#Modern_warfare

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by decremental »

No one thought about or cared about Ukraine a month ago. Now it's everyone's greatest cause of their lives. Meanwhile, I'm certain there are many atrocities the ruling class isn't forcing your focus on that you don't care about at all. All of this feigned outrage is so fake.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by CogitoCogito »

josephwegner wrote: post #12

I would probably advise against doing this. There have been rumors of Russian police looking through citizen's phones for indications that they are engaging with western viewpoints on the "special operation". And the penalty for such activities is quite high right now. A random phone call from a U.S. citizen might look suspicious, and I don't imagine Russian police are giving much benefit of the doubt right now.

I also kind of wonder how effective it would be. Put yourself in their shoes. What if you received a random phone call from someone claiming that all the media coverage of the war in Ukraine is actually fake and that there is no war at all and it’s all a peace keeping in response to Ukrainian atrocities. Would you believe it? Given what I’ve seen in the news, I’d just write the person off as crazy personally. I’d expect a Russian’s reaction to be similar.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by pastor_bob »

josephwegner wrote: post #12

I would probably advise against doing this. There have been rumors of Russian police looking through citizen's phones for indications that they are engaging with western viewpoints on the "special operation". And the penalty for such activities is quite high right now. A random phone call from a U.S. citizen might look suspicious, and I don't imagine Russian police are giving much benefit of the doubt right now.

And?

Imagine being a Putin bootlicker and then still getting thrown in prison because of a suspicious phone call. I guess these people really do want to go back to the Soviet Era, eh?

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by wbsss4412 »

javert wrote: post #18
josephwegner wrote: post #12

I would probably advise against doing this. There have been rumors of Russian police looking through citizen's phones for indications that they are engaging with western viewpoints on the "special operation". And the penalty for such activities is quite high right now. A random phone call from a U.S. citizen might look suspicious, and I don't imagine Russian police are giving much benefit of the doubt right now.

This suggestion amounts to letting Ukrainian citizens die to avoid a miniscule chance of getting a Russian citizen arrested.

Because unsolicited phone calls from people in the west is all that’s needed to stop the war.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by throwaway290 »

forlorn wrote: post #24
w_t_payne wrote: post #2

Also, try to reach out to fellow technology professionals inside Russia and help them to find a way to get out.

I don't think there is much one can do on their own. Even our relatives can't help because most countries closed their borders and aerospace and tech firms are not inclined to hire Russians right now. I for one could not get any kind of ways to evacuate.

Countries did not close borders to regular citizens. Unless your insist on flying a Russian airline, you can leave and apply for residence or even asylum (if you are against the war, you are under threat of political prosecution).
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