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If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by tpoacher »

tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

PS. For anyone not getting the 'I have pen' quote, it's a reference to this internet classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o8XMlL8rqY :)

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by codedokode »

dmix wrote: post #23

I'd assume that the majority of foreign calls are wiretapped and automatically converted to text for keyword searches. Russia gets to go directly into the server/networking rooms to install their black boxes. So self-censor certain keywords... as you normally would on the internet.

All phone calls and text messages in Russia must be recorded and stored for at least 6 months according to the law. Also, about 1 month worth of Internet traffic is also recorded.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by antattack »

tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

It might be a good plan if one wanted to create 'noise' for FSB so these random calls overwhelm their surveillance capabilities.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by asats »

If you want to help the protest movements in Russia, support the russian opposition, NGO's that provide help to people arrested during demonstrations (13750 as of today) https://ovdinfo.org/ , and independent journalists who are currently escaping the country to continue their work abroad in relative safety.

Calling random people, messing with the russian internet, targeting the russian opposition/journalists escaping the country who just had all their cards turned off because of the visa/masterkard decisions is simply counterproductive.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by gruez »

decremental wrote: post #35

No one thought about or cared about Ukraine a month ago. Now it's everyone's greatest cause of their lives. Meanwhile, I'm certain there are many atrocities the ruling class isn't forcing your focus on that you don't care about at all. All of this feigned outrage is so fake.

I don't agree with the characterization that it was "feigned" (which implies the person is intentionally doing it), but I do agree that it's a meme that blew up in popularity, and people suddenly felt the need to do something, anything. I mean, we had namecheap canceling russian accounts, of all things. I definitely wouldn't have imagined that happening a few years ago (eg. for xinjiang/hong kong/syria).

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by rini17 »

I am from Czechoslovakia, trying to imagine what would happen in 1980s if people then were getting unexpected political calls from unknown foreigners. They would mostly assume it is a secret service provocation and react accordingly. Yes that's hard to believe for westerners that your own state would do such nasty stuff to you, but it was commonplace then.

Shortwave radio station that is possible to tune to in Moscow and beyond, where they can listen to people they have known before, would have much bigger impact. Like Radio Free Europe did.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by w_t_payne »

josephwegner wrote: post #12

I would probably advise against doing this. There have been rumors of Russian police looking through citizen's phones for indications that they are engaging with western viewpoints on the "special operation". And the penalty for such activities is quite high right now. A random phone call from a U.S. citizen might look suspicious, and I don't imagine Russian police are giving much benefit of the doubt right now.

We can allow fear to turn us all into slaves, or we can take simple acts like this to defend our freedom.

Acting together, we can reach out to hundreds of thousands of individuals. The Russian police cannot arrest all who are contacted, and even if they try, all of that time, money and manpower that they pour into policing is time, money and manpower that is taken away from brutalizing people in Ukraine.

So even if someone is arrested; even if they are imprisoned -- they can be proud to know that they have done something tangible and significant to help save lives.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by bombcar »

tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

This is a wonderful way to make some poor Russian have to explain to the FSB why he got calls from the United States.

Or maybe they don't even bother asking and just gulag him.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by bastardoperator »

tpoacher wrote: post #30

What a silly plan. Consider the reverse situation. You are a US citizen, and your phone randomly rings. On the other line, there is a guy speaking English with a heavy russian accent: "Hello. I call from Russia. This website I find ask me to call and inform you of real happenings in Ukraine. Your media full of lies. Trust me. Look. I have pen." Yeah I can totally see Americans taking up arms against their government…

The inverse is happening right now, Russian citizens are calling Ukraine searching for family that happened to be a part of the Russian army.

https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022...

I could see a spambot calling thousands of numbers a day from europe with a recording versus an actual person. We laugh about the car warranty scam calls we get everyday, but we're all aware of the messaging.

Re: If you speak Russian, call Russia and tell them what is happening in Ukraine

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Post by lnsru »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #9
late2part wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://blog.feedspot.com/ukraine_blogs/ https://ukraineworld.org/ https://ukraineworld.org/podcasts/ep-74 Ep. № 74: 11 days of war: Russia tortures civilians, Ukraine begs to close the skies March 6, 2022 Russia continues to torture civilians and shell humanitarian corridors, breaking earlier commitments to let civilians to evacuate from war-torn cities. Ukraine is begging NATO to close the skies over the country or…

What they're doing is quite medieval. They're encircling cities, cutting them off, then shelling them into oblivion, cutting off food and resources. Literally a modern day Roman siege.

That’s how Red Army denazified Berlin back then.
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