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Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by nverno »

edgyquant wrote: post #126
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of Rogan's schtick is conspiracy theories. There's a lot of "just asking questions" style conversations where he tries to build up this idea that the "officially approved" narrative has a lot of holes, which he often uses to insert an alternate opinion that isn't subject to the same scrutiny. His anti-vaccine content is a perfect example: He invites actual experts on his show, but then interrupts them and brings…

It’s not just vaccines or conspiracy theories, the dude has been walking the conservative line and spreading their rhetoric since at least 2015. He brings on “democrats” who hate the Democratic Party (e.g. Tulsi Gabbard, the Weinstein brothers) and pretends supporting UBI means he isn’t a conservative. All the while constantly bringing on right wing guests (the ratio of right wingers to people like Bernie Sanders I a…

I consider him to be centrist, but it's very subjective as there is no good definition of left/right that people generally agree on. To me, he's not a partisan, so he's a centrist- not that I particularly care one way or the other.

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Post by frenchy »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #98
TigeriusKirk wrote: post #93

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This comment made me realize I immediately discount this form of comment. I'm guilty of using it myself, and this makes it clear I should stop. Not least because it's not effective.

I immediately discount 50 year olds who criticize fathers for being there for the birth of their child and helping the mom during their recovery. There is no excuse I would buy for a man with his exposure not knowing how difficult it is for a new mother to be on her own in the first few months. A quick search says he has 3 daughters of his own, so either he’s an idiot or he’s creating controversy for the sake of cont…

Sadly, being completely detached from the difficulty of "motherhoood" is a pretty common form of idiocy.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by tablxs »

tinalumfoil wrote: post #44

I really like the core idea here: media used to be a push model, social media turned it into a pull model but they're trying to wrest it back. I always hated the push model of social media, which is why most of the online content I consume is via rss, including Twitter [0]. But I never thought of traditional news media media as being a push model. It makes so much intuitive sense when you say it: the reason I read ne…

Push, pull doesnt matter at this stage. Netflix and YouTube and HN etc are neither, and look at the attention they capture.

People think they can regain control. The majority wont.

Their brains have been trained for decades now to chase clicks/upvotes/views/likes and followers as if these rules are Newtons Laws or something. Different parts of the brain now are totally fubar, as in once you have been writing with your right hand for 15 years, the brain cant just, over night, rewire large chunks of the network to use your left hand. Its takes lot of discipline and most people dont have it.

Probably have to write off a generation or two before things change. Look at netflix, now that they are hitting the upper bounds of attention capture using video, they predictably move to games and shorter vid formats like tiktok to keep capturing more attention.

They have fucked up a whole generation with an endless supply of rewards and to keep people glued. And given the billions being raked in every hour they have won.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by Igelau »

m031 wrote: post #75
Igelau wrote: post #72

> we would get to watch whatever the state television decided we would watch What's a state television? Was Canada occupied by North Korea in some other timeline?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporat...

It seems there's a noun missing. The article made it sound like the television itself was supplied by the state. I guess this made sense to everyone but me.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

edgyquant wrote: post #126
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of Rogan's schtick is conspiracy theories. There's a lot of "just asking questions" style conversations where he tries to build up this idea that the "officially approved" narrative has a lot of holes, which he often uses to insert an alternate opinion that isn't subject to the same scrutiny. His anti-vaccine content is a perfect example: He invites actual experts on his show, but then interrupts them and brings…

It’s not just vaccines or conspiracy theories, the dude has been walking the conservative line and spreading their rhetoric since at least 2015. He brings on “democrats” who hate the Democratic Party (e.g. Tulsi Gabbard, the Weinstein brothers) and pretends supporting UBI means he isn’t a conservative. All the while constantly bringing on right wing guests (the ratio of right wingers to people like Bernie Sanders I a…

So you think Dave Chapelle is the most conservative person in the world today?

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers »

edgyquant wrote: post #127
sjwalter wrote: post #104

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Considering the quality of the information and presentation in the corporate press is so terrible, in comparison Rogan does a stellar job. I disagree with your characterization, too. He has on people from all angles, including e.g, Dr. Sanjay Gupta from CNN, and he gives them a fair shake. And yes, considering how "rare" vaccine adverse reactions are supposed to be, knowing multiple people who've experienced signific…

He has people from all angles, but most of them are right wingers. He brings on a Liberal every now and then and if they don’t hate the Democratic Party he hardly lets them talk and uses the typical right wing gish gallop tactic to pretend he’s owned them at the end of the podcast. Rogan does a stellar job, lmao @ that. He does a stellar job pushing the current GOPs agenda. Because he’s able to have people like you a…

You don’t sound like you listen to him, your post indicates you don’t listen to him and are just repeating what an uninformed critic smears him with.

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Post by lamontcg »

cronix wrote: post #50
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #22

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I think ivermectin as treatment for a virus counts as snake oil.

Was that the only "treatment" he did at the time? No. He also took Monoclonal Antibodies and prednisone. Why didn't you bring that up? > In addition to mentioning ivermectin, the podcaster, who has previously stated that the young and healthy should not "worry" about being vaccinated against COVID, said he had also taken monoclonal antibodies and prednisone to treat the disease. > Thus far, three anti-SARS-CoV-2 mono…

prednisone shouldn't be taken until you've got severe COVID.

if your immune system is still attacking the virus you don't want to weaken your immune system.

once your immune system is just attacking itself then you want to throw immunosuppressants at it in order to weaken the response.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by Atlantium »

derefr wrote: post #38
lotsofpulp wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intelligence implies vetting one’s sources well.

Intelligence just means spotting patterns faster. If you're intelligent but "detail oriented", that just means you'll end up coming up with a brilliant solution to the wrong problem. In a Dungeons and Dragons character, knowing to vet one's sources would be an example of "Wisdom". And I think that's probably the right word for it in conventional speech as well.

There is no academically or commonly accepted definition of intelligence. Your confident statement renders everything else you say suspect.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by Atlantium »

manigandham wrote: post #57
boardwaalk wrote: post #49

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I'm not personally shocked by things he says, I just think he's not particularly smart and I think he tends to have the same thought processes happening over and over again, which weren't particularly more than sophomoric insightful to begin with. At best I think he might be useful to discover interviewees that actually have interesting things to say and go from there. What I am shocked by (and I suspect this is the…

Joe Rogan has built a massive business by being interesting and talking to people from all backgrounds, while having a very fascinating history himself. He may not be a nobel laureate but it's quite silly to think he's so dumb, or that others wouldn't find his conversations, topics and personality to be entertaining.

Average people find him entertaining. Others find him slow, inaccurate and petty.
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