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Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:40 AM UTC

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #61

cronix wrote: post #50

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Was that the only "treatment" he did at the time? No. He also took Monoclonal Antibodies and prednisone. Why didn't you bring that up? > In addition to mentioning ivermectin, the podcaster, who has previously stated that the young and healthy should not "worry" about being vaccinated against COVID, said he had also taken monoclonal antibodies and prednisone to treat the disease. > Thus far, three anti-SARS-CoV-2 mono…

Sure, let’s talk about Rogan’s overall approach toward COVID-19. I personally know people who haven’t gotten vaccinated because of Rogan’s influence. He may have caused more harm than Gwyneth Paltrow - you’d need to gather a bunch of data to measure the effects to know for sure.

What’s the harm in that? Efficiency decays rapidly (to about half in 5 months) and a false sense of security isn’t beneficial for anyone. Would you rather have vaccinated people who think they're invincible while infecting others because they think having the vaccine gives you the ability not to get infected at parties and bars?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Effectiveness against infections declined from 88% (95% CI 86–89) during the first month after full vaccination to 47% (43–51) after 5 months. Among sequenced infections, vaccine effectiveness against infections of the delta variant was high during the first month after full vaccination (93% [95% CI 85–97]) but declined to 53% [39–65] after 4 months.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by Bobylonian » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:40 AM UTC

After reading this blog post, I realized, that after doing exactly the same things for last couple of decades it was not decision of mine... but this guys decision.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by TigeriusKirk » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:41 AM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #42

mountainriver wrote: post #15

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Agree, all the noise around him is so strange, when you listen to him he is just a regular and pretty nice guy

My definition of regular and pretty nice guy is not someone who spouts off against men who take parental leave to help their newborn and spouse during her recovery. https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/joe-rogan-goes-after-pete-... Or speaks to someone like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXV4WtfMtA

This comment made me realize I immediately discount this form of comment.

I'm guilty of using it myself, and this makes it clear I should stop. Not least because it's not effective.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by inopinatus » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:43 AM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #14

People need to learn to start forming their own opinions and not being so easily influenced by who said what and thinking about the what itself. Lately I've been wondering if maybe people evolved to be sensitive to the who to make it easier for us to be controlled. Said control can be useful at times.

Having to form an opinion about every damn thing that matters is a) exhausting and b) hubris.

It is not possible to be an expert on everything.

The best personal outcome doesn't come from making your own assessment of everything from toothpaste to nuclear power. It's when you learn to recognise the difference between someone's reasoned expertise and, well, just about everyone else pushing their viewpoint.

The top current tip for removing noise from signal certainly is, don't consume social media, as in the OP. In a similar vein, ignore parochial/domestic television broadcasting; obtain current events from international reporting sources, and informed opinion from long-form writers.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:44 AM UTC

president wrote: post #20

endisneigh wrote: post #14

People need to learn to start forming their own opinions and not being so easily influenced by who said what and thinking about the what itself. Lately I've been wondering if maybe people evolved to be sensitive to the who to make it easier for us to be controlled. Said control can be useful at times.

This can't happen because most people live in a reality that has been crafted by the media sources they consume. This reality provides the mental safety they have enjoyed for their entire lives and there is no reason to step outside of that bubble. I've had conversations with very successful and highly-educated people who can't come to terms with certain truths unless they are validated by "trusted media". I'll be th…

Are those beliefs/truths useful? I don’t think most news is nor does it have any impact on our lives.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by fshbbdssbbgdd » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

Gwarzo wrote: post #67

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #22

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I think ivermectin as treatment for a virus counts as snake oil.

Ivermectin is being used in many countries and is supported by a large community of physicians and medical professionals. It may or may not be useful for covid - I'm not a medical worker so I will not opine on it's usefulness, but any person is capable of browsing the medical fields support for its efficacy as an antiviral.

Ivermectin is a miracle drug against parasites due to its effects on the nerve and muscle cells of invertebrates. The evidence for its use as an antiviral in vivo is weak.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

derefr wrote: post #38

lotsofpulp wrote: post #9

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Intelligence implies vetting one’s sources well.

Intelligence just means spotting patterns faster. If you're intelligent but "detail oriented", that just means you'll end up coming up with a brilliant solution to the wrong problem. In a Dungeons and Dragons character, knowing to vet one's sources would be an example of "Wisdom". And I think that's probably the right word for it in conventional speech as well.

I always thought of intelligence as adaptation to environments. You’re correct on the intelligent detailed person.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by lotsofpulp » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #93

lotsofpulp wrote: post #42

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My definition of regular and pretty nice guy is not someone who spouts off against men who take parental leave to help their newborn and spouse during her recovery. https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/joe-rogan-goes-after-pete-... Or speaks to someone like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXV4WtfMtA

This comment made me realize I immediately discount this form of comment. I'm guilty of using it myself, and this makes it clear I should stop. Not least because it's not effective.

I immediately discount 50 year olds who criticize fathers for being there for the birth of their child and helping the mom during their recovery. There is no excuse I would buy for a man with his exposure not knowing how difficult it is for a new mother to be on her own in the first few months.

A quick search says he has 3 daughters of his own, so either he’s an idiot or he’s creating controversy for the sake of controversy or to pander to other idiots.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by lotsofpulp » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:49 AM UTC

bmeski wrote: post #70

lotsofpulp wrote: post #42

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My definition of regular and pretty nice guy is not someone who spouts off against men who take parental leave to help their newborn and spouse during her recovery. https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/joe-rogan-goes-after-pete-... Or speaks to someone like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXV4WtfMtA

You’re likely not from the northeast. That’s how we talk.

I am from the northeast, and spent 20s in NYC.

Re: Stop spending so much time being trolled by billionaire corps

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Post by GhettoComputers » Wed, Nov 03, 2021, 1:49 AM UTC

robflynn wrote: post #56

refurb wrote: post #51

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Terrible! I want any podcast host to carefully vet any information on their show so I only hear ApproveIdeas(tm) as it’s clear I might get DangerousIdeas(tm) should I hear information not officially approved.

It feels like you're twisting words here. Wanting things to be vetted is not the same thing as saying "everyone has to agree with me." There's a difference between taking a differing opinion and just spouting outright bullshit and lies. Maybe there was some implied sarcasm I missed.

What bullshit and lies are you referring to? If you don’t like his podcast don’t listen to it, others love it. If you only want approved mainstream views it’s strange to impose them on a podcast for someone who believes in aliens, you can watch mainstream news for that.