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Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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This is why it would be better to pay by bit consumed, like most do for electricity. This would encourage carriers to build more infrastructure. It would also create an economic incentive for the ever increasing number of Internet connected devices to be more conscientious of data usage. Of course, we can't have that in the oligopoly situation in the United States.

No it wouldn't.

Please elaborate.

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Sounds like it was 2 cuts, which likely means it was intentional IMHO: NY| Manhattan| Communication Failure | 30 Rockefeller Plaza (Comast)| Comcast is experiencing a National outage due to 2 fiber line cuts. One between NYC & Chicago, the second between Ashburn & South Carolina. customers urged NOT TO CALL 911, no ETA on a fix, police monitor Edit: source below. Thank you dfee.

> customers urged NOT TO CALL 911 Do people really do this? I can't even comprehend this.

Yes. http://komonews.com/news/offbeat/bothell-police-dont-call-91...

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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I use them at work and home (no choice). From a technical perspective, Comcast is usually rock-solid for me. Sure it's expensive, and an absolute joke that I have to call every year to keep the discounts and a TV plan that I don't use, but I'll give credit where they have actually done a good job. I'd much rather a stable service that's a bit of a pain on the billing side than a terrible service that has a nice websi…

Yes, everyone loves to complain about the cable company but in my experience Comcast's network, technicians, and support people are the best in the business. You could not pay me to use CenturyLink, for instance.

> in my experience Comcast's network, technicians, and support people are the best in the business.

in the context of US based ISP 'businesses', that's like saying 'the smartest kid on the short bus'

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For what it's worth, we let bridges crumble, communities sit without clean drinking water, and are intentionally bankrupting our postal service in the hopes of being able to privatize it. So I would say the Internet is being treated about the same.

But the government shouldn't be able to run postal services! Socialism something, something, Venezuela, uga buga!

This is entirely disingenuous, the United States Constitution explicitly allows the federal government to run a post office (Article 1, Section 8).

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Comcast's confirmed the fiber cut: https://twitter.com/comcastcares/status/1012767042158510080 > One of Comcast’s large backbone network partners had a fiber cut that we believe is also impacting other providers. It is currently affecting our business and residential internet, video and voice customers. We apologize & are working to get services restored as soon as possible They seem to be at least starting to route…

> They seem to be at least starting to route around it now

Isn't IP supposed to do this automatically?

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Comcast's confirmed the fiber cut: https://twitter.com/comcastcares/status/1012767042158510080 > One of Comcast’s large backbone network partners had a fiber cut that we believe is also impacting other providers. It is currently affecting our business and residential internet, video and voice customers. We apologize & are working to get services restored as soon as possible They seem to be at least starting to route…

For the infrastructure-level network admins out there, is there different lingo for an intentional and accidental fibre break, or is "fibre cut" used for both? I'm just thinking 'cut' is a pretty intentional word to use here.

Not one of those admins, but generally the term "fibre cut" always seems to be related to "backhoe operator accidentally digging a hole through the buried fiber line" when the final reason for the outage comes out.

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Comcast's confirmed the fiber cut: https://twitter.com/comcastcares/status/1012767042158510080 > One of Comcast’s large backbone network partners had a fiber cut that we believe is also impacting other providers. It is currently affecting our business and residential internet, video and voice customers. We apologize & are working to get services restored as soon as possible They seem to be at least starting to route…

Best current info is as follows:

There is a fiber cut somewhere between NYC and Chicago.

At the same time there is also a fiber cut between Ashburn, VA, and locations in South Carolina. The cut is somewhere in NC.

Copy and paste from Level3 notification system:

"* CASCADED EXTERNAL NOTES 29-Jun-2018 15:13:37 GMT From CASE: 14815828 - Event Field Operations dispatched to the estimated failure location and upon arrival was advised by local law enforcement there was a truck that struck a utility pole, which then fell across the street and struck another pole, which then tore down the aerial fiber lines. In addition to the fiber lines being down, live power lines are down as well. OSP will be dispatching a fiber repair and construction crew to the site; however, until the local utility company has completed their repairs and deemed the area safe, fiber repairs cannot begin.

* CASCADED EXTERNAL NOTES 29-Jun-2018 19:21:05 GMT From CASE: 14815828 - Event The OSP has contacted the personnel transporting the replacement fiber, and they advised they remain en route, and on schedule for their ETA of 20:15 GMT. The next update will be provided upon their arrival, or as new information becomes available.

Re: Massive Comcast Outage Hits the US

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Not really. We place super high priority on freedom from government influence. It's OK for a company to fuck you over but not the government for . Edit: I know the , but the debate about that is not particularly relevant here.

We cannot escape the government. We can choose to ignore any or all companies. If I want to, I can lock myself in my house, disconnect from society, and subsist on my backyard garden. But there is no escape from the state. Even if I go completely off-grid and never leave my property, the state still comes banging on my door, demanding a rent payment for property I (supposedly) own -- i.e., property tax.

> We can choose to ignore any or all companies.

Except you can't actually do that. There's a huge list of companies you simply can not choose to ignore. That's sort of why monopoly/oligopoly is so evil, and why strong independent antitrust action is so critical for preserving freedom.

Yes, you can escape all companies if you live like a hermit in a prepper dungeon on your property (that you somehow purchased while 'ignoring all companies' with money you got ahold of by 'ignoring all companies'), That is technically one form of freedom. But most people define Freedom a bit more broadly than that.

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