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Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

Uber has done nearly everything right. I think its main vulnerability is that its laborers are a fickle bunch and Uber hasn't done enough to inspire any loyalty. All Uber drivers I talk to alternate between Uber and Lyft and exploit any promotions or incentives either firm offers. Uber has the opportunity to revolutionize not just logistics but also on-demand employment, but has lagged in the latter, leaving the door…

> All Uber drivers I talk to alternate between Uber and Lyft and exploit any promotions or incentives either firm offers.

This is no different than any other for hire industry though. They are making the choice that best benefits them financially. Uber knows this, lyft knows this, basic economics and human instinct to better their own situation. There will always be more drivers though so I doubt they are concerned about the problem to be honest. The barrier to being an Uber driver is so low.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

#132

I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

If you are an engineer, go interview with them. https://eng.uber.com/

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I think Matt Levine nailed it earlier this month [1], on how Uber lost $2.2 Billion in 9 months [2]: >Eventually there will be self-driving cars, and there's no special reason to think that Uber will be the best at building them, or that its dominant position in the ride-hailing-app space will protect it from better self-driving-car businesses. Which also needs to factor in Uber's biggest liability: their attitude to…

I don't think their position is safe but I'd probably bet on them or google winning that market over anyone else.

I'd bet on Google, Tesla, and Mercedes before Uber, since they all have vehicles with more than a week on the road and cash-positive revenue streams to support further development. Uber burned through ~30% of their $11B in cash just in 2016 alone.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

#134

I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

Uber team member here. I was skeptical for a very long time as well, but I've been won over. The challenges are fantastic, the work intense (yet I still have time for family) and I'm part of the best team I've ever been on. The last year or so has been the best of my professional life. I would highly recommend a closer look.

Very inspiring. Applying for a job now.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

#135

I'm really confused on what to think about Uber. My personal thinking/logic is really bearish on them, similar to the post on the front page yesterday [1]. However, I keep seeing extremely smart/accomplished people joining it which makes me second guess my intuition. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13437414

I don't know all that much about Mr. Singhal, so I have no idea if this may be true in his case, but I suspect that great engineers are frequently not the best judges of a company's prospects, especially when there are numerous factors other than the strength of their technology that will determine how they perform. With respect to Uber, regardless of anything else, they have lots of cash with which to compensate key…

Or, more likely, they're interested in solving interesting problems and aren't afraid of losing their jobs because they've got money. That's pretty much exactly what the aft for says...

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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Uber has done nearly everything right. I think its main vulnerability is that its laborers are a fickle bunch and Uber hasn't done enough to inspire any loyalty. All Uber drivers I talk to alternate between Uber and Lyft and exploit any promotions or incentives either firm offers. Uber has the opportunity to revolutionize not just logistics but also on-demand employment, but has lagged in the latter, leaving the door…

Uber cannot afford to do any of the things you've listed because Uber cannot sustain the subsidies it is already giving out to its drivers. Moreover, Uber doesn't want its drivers to be educated about the true cost of operating a vehicle for Uber because if they realized how much it cost, most wouldn't do it. The only one of your bullet points Uber has pursued is the last one -- they rope drivers into car leases in h…

I wonder how come Lyft can do these things and Uber can't. This is from 2 years ago: https://thehub.lyft.com/blog/2015/01/14/partners-ehealth-top... Every Uber driver I talk to in Seattle say that Lyft is way better in terms of pay/perks but they can't get enough rides because Uber simply has a larger user base.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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I have same feeling, one my friend worked at a flywheel (uber but with taxi cabs)...he said that uber dominates this industry. They have figured out the biggest obstacle which is government regulations. This is the big challenge for any startup trying to copy uber.

I wouldn't call "knowingly breaking the law and throwing VC money at the lawyers until the problem goes away" necessarily "figuring out government regulations".

Just because a law exists doesn't mean it's a good law. Uber is finding inefficient/protectionist laws and challenging their validity. I think that is better for the overall economy.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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Forced how? I have friends that eat because of Uber. What leverage do they have against Uber? This is a tragedy of the commons problem: Uber is footing an addiction to cheap transport nobody knows how to satiate.

>Uber is footing an addiction to cheap transport nobody knows how to satiate. Just ride a bike. Not an option in the burbs, for sure, but taking an uber is not an efficiency gain the way public transit or bicycles are. IMHO low density communities will die. They cannot be saved.

Bikes aren't an option in a lot of cities, either. I live ~1.5mi from my office in Atlanta, but I'm nowhere near crazy enough to ride a bike down Piedmont Rd.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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You should sign up for Blind and read the Uber employees' comments.

Are you able to read comments from people at other companies? My understanding was that if be limited to just interacting with people at my own company.

There's an open lounge.

Re: Uber Hires Former Google Search Chief Amit Singhal as SVP of Engineering

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You should sign up for Blind and read the Uber employees' comments.

Can you give the gist? You piqued my interest, but the app looks like the rabbit hole I'd rather not go down.

There seem to be two modes. First, it seems everyone hates it there and management is terrible and people get fired with no severance all the time. The other mode is aggressive recruiting. Here's an actual interaction I had:

Me: I'm torn between doing something new and staying where I'm at.

Random Uber employee: Hey, you should join Uber. Hit me up and I'll refer you.

Me: I can assure you I'm not interested.

Random Uber employee: Wuss...

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