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Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by felooboolooomba »

StrLght wrote: post #77
felooboolooomba wrote: post #55

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This is absolutely not a witch-hunt. People in that position wield enormous power and take their paycheck and responsibility that comes with it. Linking to his professional linked in relation to his responsibility is nothing but professional.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by fsflover »

rcxdude wrote: post #49
geremiiah wrote: post #38

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I don't either. Don't we have free market capitalism? Why don't I have a Linux phone? And why do I need to worry that my government and banking apps won't work if I get a Linux phone?

Because in a free market you can't compel someone to support your niche platform, nor even compel someone to create the niche platform you want. The market for a Linux phone is tiny because there's almost no reason for the average phone user to prefer it over android.

> you can't compel someone to support your niche platform

You mean, a browser?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by patall »

patall wrote: post #103
Aachen wrote: post #70

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Apparently I live in 2005 then? I do 2FA with the same chip+pin method that I use to pay in the store. Works in any browser

Maybe that is possible in Germany. It is impossible here in Sweden. Or in other words: of course you can have mobile bankid without a smartphone, just use a tablet computer ;)

@fsflover: and my mobile phone provider. And my insurance. And my eletricity provider. And my housing associations customer portal. Getting doctors appointments. Mortgage. Union. National retirement savings account. Some of these may have some alternative left, but far too many you will be left out.

Well, I can buy a train ticket without it, so I could still leave.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by georgeecollins »

owaislone wrote: post #91
tfrancisl wrote: post #45

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What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

Nothing is stopping you. You're free to use a desktop web app that either doesn't work or is terribly slow or has limited features on a mobile web browser. I'd love it if all apps were PWAs but that is not the case.

My broker has a much more fully featured web app then it does on iOS or Android. You can do things in a browser that the phone apps will send you to a browser to do. BofA is just as good of a web app. Maybe people are just used to using their phones?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by Kenji »

shaky-carrousel wrote: post #82
rh94 wrote: post #81

Anyone has any idea if this changes current situation with nfc payments? Currently many banking apps do not work, and google pay is just unavailable, to my understanding it was related to secure chip on phone - as graphene wasnt "stocked" android os approved by google, i dearly hope this chnages with motorola

I have a GrapheneOS phone and I pay with Curve.

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by matheusmoreira »

tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

Because without Android I can't run WhatsApp and my bank's app on my phone, which promptly reduces it to a paperweight. I wish it wasn't so, but reality refuses to cooperate, so let's just be happy that we've got GrapheneOS which is so good it has its own column in Cellebrite's support matrix.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by crest »

StrLght wrote: post #109
bflesch wrote: post #106

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I think it's a stretch to call OP doing a "witch-hunt" here. That Android guy is a mini LinkedIn celebrity with 100k followers.

This doesn't excuse a message that literally reads like call to action.

What would be wrong with a call to action addressed at someone likely in a position to stop this bullshit if he cared enough?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by heftig »

afiori wrote: post #97
steve_taylor wrote: post #92

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Sounds like a cheap way to get my hands on some floppies.

you are right a stack of printed qr codes is better

No, that's too easily machine-read. Print it in a fancy calligraphy font or one with ambiguous characters.
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