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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by afavour »

mrdoe wrote: post #27

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Tell me you're in a bubble without telling me you're in a bubble.

(Mastodon is, of course, also a bubble. But largely by design. A lot of more tech-leaning folks decamped there any stayed there)

EDIT: ah, OP is just a troll that only ever seems to comment when someone mentions a short form social media network that isn't Twitter.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by Cider9986 »

tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

AOSP has way better security and therefore privacy than desktop linux.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by unethical_ban »

nunobrito wrote: post #12

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Since we're speculating here, I hope whatever phone you have allows you to lock the bootloader (My oneplus doesn't after installing LineageOS). And certainly NSA has no way of infiltrating AOSP or less hardened chipsets.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by compass_copium »

tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

GOS is broadly compatible with most phone use cases out of the box--chat, mail, browsing. A Google Play profile lets me use almost all apps (including my bank apps, but I understand that's not true for everyone).

In principle I agree about a Linux phone, but the gaps are much greater. I am also sympathetic to the GOS team's arguments that sandboxing on Android is better, and important on a device that allows control of essentially my whole life (2FA apps etc.)

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by inigyou »

tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene.

* before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by geremiiah »

tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

I don't either. Don't we have free market capitalism? Why don't I have a Linux phone? And why do I need to worry that my government and banking apps won't work if I get a Linux phone?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by inigyou »

Gigachad wrote: post #28
tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

Because you need app support. Not even Microsoft could pull that off.

Doesn't windows run android apps natively now?

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Post by nextaccountic »

Gigachad wrote: post #28
tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

Because you need app support. Not even Microsoft could pull that off.

What about running the whole Android infrastructure, but on top of a non-Android Linux distro? And this, on top of a Android kernel (otherwise you won't have the drivers yo uneed)

The advantage being, we can manage packages using a regular Linux distro

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