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Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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ivan_gammel wrote: post #56
stared wrote: post #20

Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

This doesn‘t sound like AI. LLMs do not use dictionary definitions for translating a paper this way. It does look like some translation engine like Google Translate or worse, maybe with some text obfuscator trying to avoid plagiarism detection.

Yes, this looks like something which predates AI by several decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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stared wrote: post #20

Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

I also notice that "was opposed to 20 mL" and "unprotected to light" are also not phrases a human would likely produce for that sentence.

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Post by duskwuff »

userbinator wrote: post #121
ivan_gammel wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn‘t sound like AI. LLMs do not use dictionary definitions for translating a paper this way. It does look like some translation engine like Google Translate or worse, maybe with some text obfuscator trying to avoid plagiarism detection.

Yes, this looks like something which predates AI by several decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning

https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06751 found that a lot of the outputs were characteristic of an online tool called SpinBot. (The tool no longer seems to work the same way that it did at the time.)

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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stared wrote: post #20

Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

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Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Post by thaumasiotes »

LPisGood wrote: post #72
gmerc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like Anthrophics watermark explanation though.

Anthropic’s watermark is just using a known collection of random seeds during output token generation. That’s it. The models always relied on some randomness, here the randomness is fixed and remembered for querying later.

> Anthropic’s watermark is just using a known collection of random seeds during output token generation. That’s it.

Wouldn't that mean that checking the watermark...

(1) Required knowing the prompt used to generate the text; and

(2) was just as expensive as generating the text?

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Post by thaumasiotes »

lq9AJ8yrfs wrote: post #50

"Kidney transplantation is a surgery to eliminate a sound, working kidney from a living or cerebrum dead giver and embed it into a patient with non-working kidneys. Kidney transplantation is performed on patients with persistent kidney disappointment, or end-stage renal illness (ESRD). ESRD happens when a sickness or confusion harms the kidneys with the goal that they are presently not able to do satisfactorily elimi…

> Wolters Kluwer seems to be a real multinational company?

Funnily enough, your first link reports that the author of the book is "Kluwer, Wolters".

Being a real multinational company doesn't mean they've read the books published under their imprint.

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Post by dmix »

freehorse wrote: post #55
ReaLNero wrote: post #47

It's very clear what's happening: they're passing it through a writing tool that has an "Auto-improve" feature the users click. This would do the naive, pre-LLM, trick of taking "repetitive" vocabulary and varying it using synonyms.

I assume it is due to machine translation? I do not see mentions of "failure" at all, which would be expected to exist if it was to increase variety. I think (heard) some used to translate an article back and forth a few times to get a "new" article, but maybe it could have been some kind of "paraphrasing" software like you describe (but for avoiding plagiarism detection rather than repetitions).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning?wprov=

It's just an old plagiarism method

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