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Re: Grok Bot

#121

The scariest part of the interaction is the first video at https://x.ai/bot where the bot just snags your creds from the browser and takes over. So many people are going to give x all their data and creds.

I assume they store your session state/token for whatever SaaS it needs to work with but not the creds.

Many people assumed they didnt upload your whole home dir when you launched their IDE

Re: Grok Bot

#122
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Are you all comfortable with the idea of agents running non stop with access to all your accounts? I would be so anxious all the time, thinking they would leak or delete my personal data, or get hijacked via prompt injection or a security vulnerability. I just cannot imagine using such a software without overview

I rawdog Claude Code with --dangerously-skip-permissions and the only fucky wucky it's made is invoking git checkout wrong and losing some code in the working tree. It has done this thrice, the first two times I caught it in the act and smashed esc to rewind the conversation + code, and the third time I wasn't paying attention it just restored it from context. So I would worry about it making small mistakes, that I w…

“I won at Russian Roulette therefore it’s a safe game” isn’t really a good argument. If Claude is within your risk profile, that doesn’t mean it’s a good fit everyone else.

Re: Grok Bot

#123

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A tool that only people who trust Elon can use.

Elon wanted X to be a universal app like WeChat. Communication, payment, government services (and probably one-shop stop for user surveillance)... Wahey, looking forward to Grokbot telling its users "we logged in to your bank account and moved all your money to BankX, it's got the best interest rate!"

I wonder what grok "unhinged" would do to your social calendar/bank account.

Re: Grok Bot

#124
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I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to…

> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…

It’s really sad. I suppose for companies doing business online it’s just a (ballooning) cost of doing business, but for personal interactions it’s a disaster. I used to respond pretty enthusiastically to CTOs/team leads/recruiters reaching out who actually talk about details of my open source work as opposed to just sending a canned recruitment email. Nowadays I can’t be sure they’re not just using a bot to gather personalized details. Well, at least the last CTO reaching out to me said they found my profile while trawling with Claude, after I responded; appreciate the honesty I guess.

Re: Grok Bot

#125

From FAQ: How is Grok Bot different from AI assistants? Bots have their own computer, so they can work inside your apps and tools. They also run in parallel, 24/7, even when your laptop is closed. How does it work with login-walled sites like LinkedIn then? And what does "own computer" mean? X provisions a "private cloud" a'la Apple for your Bot?

How my bots do it is chrome dev tools or puppeteer or w/e. I've got chrome vnc (for monitoring) and headless X in the container with them. Works pretty flawlessly.

Re: Grok Bot

#127
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How do I give an agent its own bank account credentials in a way it can interact with my accounts? How do I give an agent access to my inbox with its own account? How do I get it to interact with my Youtube subscriptions with its own account? What is the use of an agent with its own accounts that are separate to my accounts? What am I even getting out of it at that point?

They're nowhere near smart enough, but in an ideal case , the same utility you would get out of hiring a $600 a month personal assistant with a basic desktop PC who lives in a developing country somewhere on the other side of the planet and speaks reasonably good English. If the AI/LLM is good enough (they're not, yet), the same level of access/credentials/logins that you would give to an entirely new real person.

So, you mean that it will run its own AI agent, which itself also has its own computer, which will be used to run its own agent, which so has its own computer…

Re: Grok Bot

#128
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And more generally, very often the recipient of an email bears more cost than the sender. I heard this once and keep it in mind for every email I send. How do I reduce the cost of replying. Many times it means getting on the phone/ not sending the email at all.

Isn't a phone call like 10x more taxing than an email reply?

it entirely depends on the topic. an example is realizing the queries will end up with multiple back and forths.

for a lot of things a phone call can solve something in minutes and it’s cleared from your brain queue. while some emails end up with back and forth waiting for each others responses. that’s can be hours or days where it sits in your brain as yet another task to manage. wasteful for something that could have easily been tied up with a quick phone call.

Re: Grok Bot

#129

I think perhaps I won't trust anything that ever gets released by this company, likely in perpetuity.

It should be studied how we reached a point where we trust more a Chinese company, that's well know for being state controlled, vs an American company because it seems they could do worse. Still no idea what "worse" it could do because we've reached the threshold where plague and cholera are intertwined and every possible outcome seems abusive.

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