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Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #110

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But he isn’t. He’s just writing an AI slop book about Zig. Surely there’s nothing legally wrong with that? He never said it’s an official book or backed by the Zig project. The trademark cudgel is used on people who release an incompatible language that they insist on calling Zig, confusing people who want to try Zig. Or people who add malware to the Zig tool chain and try to distribute that. Trademark can’t be used…

Mm thats a good point. I'm not entirely clear on the limits of trademarks in this case. Its Zigbook rather then Zig.

I read a lot about this when Rust was considering adopting a trademark policy. The main use cases for enforcing the trademark were

- preventing someone who hardforked the project from creating an incompatible language while using the same name.

- preventing someone from distributing malware while still using the same name.

Because if you notice, neither of these clash with the MIT license that many languages use. You need to enforce your trademark to stop this kind of behaviour.

Zigbook can argue that they aren’t causing any confusion between themselves and the Zig language. The Zig foundation could argue that the name implies an endorsement by the project and they should call themselves The Unofficial Zig Book instead. I don’t know which way it goes.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #120
post #98

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No, that's not obvious at all. A single event is evidence that some abuse still happens, it does not tell us how much more abuse there would be in the counterfactual where the history wasn't available. discourage != prevent all

I get what you're saying, but I feel like they should highlight comments in some way if a repo admin completely replaces a comment with different text. I'm struggling to imagine a situation where that would really be appropriate. The "Edited by: username" seems too easy to overlook.

They could show multiple post authors, similar to how they do for co-authored commits.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #39

Plagiarism is a moral wrong. But copyright infringement is a legal wrong (a civil liability). Is what they're doing infringing on a copyrighted work? Or does it fail to uphold license terms? Many open source licenses have some amount of attribution as a requirement, so that'd be something to consider.

AI is actually beginning to encourage "restricted source", public-only-gets-binary debates to simply avoid such legal issues. Write a snail-mail letter to get the real sources. Repositories are private with a small well-vetted list of contributors. Also avoid slop-PR headaches that away.

Sorry, this sounds like the absolutely worst idea ever. The way to kill open source as such. Sloppy PRs will end when the idiot HRs release there is no value in them. Plagiarism isn't really anything new and AI doesn't really change much there. But adding friction to examining source is a sure way to make no one care to contribute.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #49
post #38

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zigbook edited a 3rd party comment to say "I’m autistic and sperging out over stuff on the internet that doesn’t actually matter. Don’t mind me." Just your run off the mill AI grifter. EDIT: https://lobste.rs/s/pbn3zy/zigbook_learn_zig_programming_lan... "Quick research - author's actual profile is https://github.com/zk-evm , and he's a potential scammer from crypto spaces, who also happens to be running fake GitHub…

> Quick research - author's actual profile is https://github.com/zk-evm The account is called zig-vm now. And here's his real github account: https://github.com/gweidart

An old version of a related contact page: https://web.archive.org/web/20250320001430/https://gweidart....

lists as a donation link: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/Newcomer214

So, gweidart is probably this guy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-newcomer-7275aa228/

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #16

Playground wise, is Zigs wasm compiler able to compile out simd wasm in the browser? I'm trying to find the best languages that can. So far it's just assemblyscript and c/c++ and their compilers are big.

I haven't dug deep but it seems Zig's Wasm target does support SIMD.

> WebAssembly portable SIMD intrinsics

https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/src/branch/master/lib/inclu...

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #91

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Allowing the maintainer to prepend a comment to the top seems more sensible to me to be honest. Would make API use harder potentially, but it would avoid weird abuse like this.

github is meant for collaboration, designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a function to report absusive edits rather than an entire post would be a better choice imo.

Report to whom? Github, who allows the behavior and therefore doesn’t see anything wrong with it, or the repo admins who have proven they they couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the very thing you’re reporting? The well is already poisoned, there is no reason to think that they’d suddenly change their stance and cooperate.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #85

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It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

That's a useful feature for long-running issues to include updates in the opening post. Or to improve formatting when a bug reporter isn't familiar with markdown. And that it shows in the edit history should at least discourage abuse.

The vanishing small percentage of people that would actually check a comment’s history are the same people who would check a Wikipedia entries history.

At a bare minimum, the post should have in big bold lettering: Edited by .

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

The responds and edits are simply unprofessional and immature. I don't hate AI and in fact I use it for many research based tasks, helping me narrowing a lot of tough topics, but it is the People with these kind of attitude turns me off.

I don't mid the immature part, they are hate fueled. The ableism is disgusting.
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