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Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#82
post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

Did you make up A-Lot-AI? Can I suggest "A-Lott-a-AI"?

If you did, this is the greatest thing created in 3 ABC ("After Bullshit ChatGPTification"; ChatGPT launched in 2022.).

NB: Since ChatGPT is basically the new Messiah for many, I really think we should now be using dates like 3 ABC or 5 POS. POS stands for "Prior to Overlord Slop/Shit". I suggest we give up AD/BC.

But, please, I'm not the messiah! (hopefully you have watched Life of Brian!)

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#83

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It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.

Censoring insults or illegal speech (depending on jurisdiction) would be the main reason I can think of.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#84
post #80

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This probably depends on country, but AFAIK in most of europe, even in public domain, the „you can’t pass another’s work as your own” part of copyright is still active and doesn’t expire.

This piques my interest, what is the legally required recognition of a derivative's parent work? Must I be able to list dependencies, or should I be able to verify whether a parent work is included in mine? What if my work is a second derivative of a work which I am unaware of, because the work in between improperly didn't recognise its parent? Am I legally responsible to investigate such cases?

Something like, "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, by Jane Austen and Seth Grahame-Smith" is probably sufficient.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#85
post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

That's a useful feature for long-running issues to include updates in the opening post. Or to improve formatting when a bug reporter isn't familiar with markdown. And that it shows in the edit history should at least discourage abuse.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#86

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It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.

This is particularly useful when editing the top-level comment of a popular issue to specify the current status. Or when a peer opened a placeholder issue and you fill it up. Etc.

If you actually use GitHub as a social network of sorts, there are many reasons to do edit comments. All the edits are visible anyway. You're on Git-Hub, you can already edit everything you have write access to.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

What would be a valid reason to allow this? That just seems mind-numbingly stupid.

Markdown is pretty tricky for new users to figure out, so quite often, users will just paste big snippets of code without formatting them, which is nearly unreadable. I'll usually edit these posts to add ```backticks``` around any code.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#88

Had a conversation with the Zigbook maintainer. It’s either a young kid or somebody that has some serious growing up to do. Just generally weird behavior.

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By that token, is the harmed party here also immature? Also do you work at GitHub and did he hurt your feelings by... being dead accurate as to several engineering failures?

I mean, focus on whatever you want, but he hasn't done anything Linus Torvalds hasn't done (at least similar enough).

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#89
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unbelievable to me that Github allows repo admins to edit other people's comments.

That's a useful feature for long-running issues to include updates in the opening post. Or to improve formatting when a bug reporter isn't familiar with markdown. And that it shows in the edit history should at least discourage abuse.

Allowing the maintainer to prepend a comment to the top seems more sensible to me to be honest. Would make API use harder potentially, but it would avoid weird abuse like this.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#90
post #37

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"Not generated by AI" is something that every programmer everywhere is going to say about their own work, even when it's obviously AI generated. I've started to publicly call people out when I see they've posted something on social media (LinkedIn, etc.) when I see they've made an AI-generated post. The fraud has to stop.

Kind of hard unfortunately, now when one gets evaluated how much we're improving our daily work with AI, when the annual feedback meeting comes. The no AI devs will get a "needs improvement" report.

I've talked to people who got fired for not embracing AI, so go out there and say how much more productive you are even if it's a lie.
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