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Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by Zambyte »

Meneth wrote: post #55
nusl wrote: post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

The only public repo remaining under their github account is this VSCode-Copilot integration tool ( https://github.com/zigbook/pilot ).

It seems their whole account is gone now.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by pityJuke »

b800h wrote: post #81

Whenever I hear anything about Zig it seems to be drama. Very bizarre, will avoid.

This isn’t anything to do with Zig though, it just happens to be the language that this crook chose.

They’ve could’ve picked Nim and done this whole spiel there (you’d want to pick a fledgling language that isn’t saturated with documentation, so the stalwarts aren’t usable).

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#103

Post by nusl »

nusl wrote: post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

Follow-up: seems they've been banned

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by Zambyte »

_zagj wrote: post #26
bjt wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's addressed in the post. MIT license. Zigbook is not honoring the attribution requirement. A PR to change that was closed and obfuscated.

> Zigbook is not honoring the attribution requirement It's crazy how many people treat MIT as if it were public domain.

I genuinely believe more people violate permissive licenses than copyleft license. I have no data to back this up, but just look at how much people focused on if LLMs were violating the GPL by reproducing code covered by the GPL without reproducing the license. If LLMs violate the GPL, they violate all licenses besides ones that are effectively public domain.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by Zambyte »

jamiejquinn wrote: post #94
b800h wrote: post #81

Whenever I hear anything about Zig it seems to be drama. Very bizarre, will avoid.

Ditto... I love Zig as a language but I worry the high-level community builders (including Andrew) are a little too antagonistic to foster a positive, tolerant, patient community in the long term. In saying that, my infrequent interactions in the reddit and discord are always pleasant.

Actual Zig community spaces like Ziggit is very pleasant as far as programming language forums go. I think Zig just occupies a unique space in the language ecosystem (a very performance oriented, production oriented language that is not afraid to rapidly try things and throw them out if it doesn't meet expectations in practice - not many languages sit in the middle of this venn diagram) and people see it as an opportunity to gain a social foothold in something potentially great.

It seems like it might be in the nature of a language with these goals and this development process to attract people like this, no matter how warm and welcoming the community leaders are.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by testaccount28 »

the8472 wrote: post #91
dannyfritz07 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing the maintainer to prepend a comment to the top seems more sensible to me to be honest. Would make API use harder potentially, but it would avoid weird abuse like this.

github is meant for collaboration, designing it around adversarial use would be a loss for everyone. Adding a function to report absusive edits rather than an entire post would be a better choice imo.

reporting abusive edits requires moderation/arbitration. the rules can instead be changed to sidestep the issue, while maintaining the value of the feature.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

mtndew4brkfst wrote: post #79
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were licensing MIT, ostensibly it’s not the copying you care about, just the attribution. There is always the option to turn off prs, or even distribute code without using github.

GitHub has never allowed public repos to disable PRs in particular. There's no setting for that.

It's not directly possible, no, but with branch protection rules and this Github action it is trivial to set up: https://github.com/dessant/repo-lockdown

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#108

Post by [deleted] »

nusl wrote: post #103
nusl wrote: post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

Follow-up: seems they've been banned

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#109

Post by networked »

nusl wrote: post #52

Repo seems to be gone? User action or GitHub action? Regardless, for visibility as to maybe-why this happened, here are screenshots of the user editing comments to insult/make them say something they never did; https://imgur.com/a/LsvBXY1 https://web.archive.org/web/20251130091635/https://github.co... The tool itself claims "Zero AI" ( https://www.zigbook.net/ ) yet is very obviously A-Lot-AI.

I notice again I haven't internalized how much https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpec... really happens.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Post by pa7ch »

testdelacc1 wrote: post #23
pa7ch wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its the opposite in my understanding. Zig has a BDFL. Trademarks are the usual cudgel of choice to enforce a bad actor claiming to be part of offcial Zig.

But he isn’t. He’s just writing an AI slop book about Zig. Surely there’s nothing legally wrong with that? He never said it’s an official book or backed by the Zig project. The trademark cudgel is used on people who release an incompatible language that they insist on calling Zig, confusing people who want to try Zig. Or people who add malware to the Zig tool chain and try to distribute that. Trademark can’t be used…

Mm thats a good point. I'm not entirely clear on the limits of trademarks in this case. Its Zigbook rather then Zig.
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