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A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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The real irony is that this article was clearly, edited and formatted by an LLM.

Can you tell me how you can tell with such certainty that you are willing to publicly libel a stranger?

If you can, you have a massive ed-tech startup on your hands.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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It's weird. All of our attributes which we hold and value, and develop via a mix of genes and training - intelligence, but also strength, stamina, reflexes - we acquired, if you strip it all off to basics, to feed and to procreate. That's all evolution cares about. Now, we are social animals, and we grew to value these thing for their own right. Societies valued strength and bravery, as virtues, but I guess ultimatel…

Plenty of people do not work out today.

Soldiers do still go through physical training, and this seems to be a closer metaphor than swordsmanship.

Quite scary in its implications for the future.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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to me this is an indication that the priorities of these formative years should change, and it doesn't look like what "school" looks like

the montessori and sudbury school model always seemed closest to what was necessary, although now I wonder if even those are cracking at the seams with outsourced thinking

regardless, I think a re-evaluation of the point is absolutely necessary.

self-motivated children are rare and require a specific environment and support system to thrive in, but will always be there to escape the more obvious return to serfs working on fiefs, unless born into capital themselves

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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The real irony is that this article was clearly, edited and formatted by an LLM.

That's not apparent at all. The NYT has published a couple AI-written articles like this one: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-whe... but this New Yorker doesn't have any of the tells.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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> I recently found out that my nephew's school had no take-home homework before high school, instead having kids complete assignments during class time. At first, I was flabbergasted that they would deny kids the discipline building of managing unstructured time without direct supervision. Good! If they want to give kids the chance to develop the skill of managing unstructured time, that could easily be fit into the…

> For many/most students, the home is not particularly conducive for doing homework a variety of reasons. I think this speaks to the parents and the type of home environment that they create. This is one of the major sources of disagreement between the right and the left, where the former (sometimes strongly) feel the parents bear responsibility for the type of environment their kids grow up in while the latter (equa…

That’s the polite way they state it. The under the line philosophy comes from some reading of pre-determinism.

People who are guided by this see the negative fate of a child as a measure of the parent’s rejection of god’s grace. That’s why you have the weird commitment to pro-life principles, but nearly complete disdain once a child leaves the womb.

People find ways to twist things to fit their self interest.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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ANY real kid that is unpretentious would do. A "I use AI to cheat at school" article would be far more interesting that this "Oh my God, my peers are hopeless but not me" piece.

are those kids writing articles? because i would read them if they were.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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> For many/most students, the home is not particularly conducive for doing homework a variety of reasons. I think this speaks to the parents and the type of home environment that they create. This is one of the major sources of disagreement between the right and the left, where the former (sometimes strongly) feel the parents bear responsibility for the type of environment their kids grow up in while the latter (equa…

I think the lefty one is more accurately that the children cannot help what kind of home their parents provide. Maybe their parents have a responsibility to do better, but if the parents are not delivering on their responsibility, should the children bear the consequence?

The counterargument is : If there are no consequences, what is the incentive to bear responsibility?

Ultimately this argument does not have a clear answer because it's driven by beliefs, not facts.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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This take from a Hermione-type High School senior shed next to zero new light on the subject. Yes, we know AI is redefining school and jobs and daily life. The perspective of an obnoxious A+ type student isn't helping, especially because you kind of can read between the lines that she isn't friends with these kids using AI, which would give her a deeper perspective of why and how they are using AI. Is this what The A…

Well said. There are kids who're struggling no matter how hard they try, because the teacher's explanation was miserable, or because they have to actually work part-time for a living. These kids need AI. Without AI they could risk being on the street when they turn 18. Later in life, when their life is more stable, these same kids will be the first to actually use AI to learn the then necessary concepts properly.

plenty of straight-A students are in those same classes with miserable explanations or have jobs. plenty of kids who flunk out of expensive private schools and don't work. always have been since long before AI. nobody "needs" these tools. they're conveniences. it sounds more like your issue is with the timing and structure of impersonalized childhood education.

Re: A high schooler writes about AI tools in the classroom

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> external factors (abuse, addiction, sickness, etc.). Beside factors that body's performance, also consider factors that impact well-meaning parent or caregivers' _presence_ in the home, such economic realities, e.g., parents working multiple jobs, parents with challenging schedules, single parents, lack of community support (e.g., availability of a supportive neighbors or families.)

Agreed, of course. All captured in the etc. Nothwithstanding these factors, the debate still boils down to who's responsible for the kids' well-being: Them or society.

It’s never that simple. When society creates an environment where neglect is baked in, society bears some culpability.
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