sigh I can't wait for Windows to annoy blind developers enough so that they switch to Linux, and hammer it into shape for us users. Windows just has the best support for blind people. I mean it's falling to entropy with every release, but screen readers hold things up as much as they can. Luckily even File Explorer has gotten so slow that Microsoft starts sending messages to screen readers "working on it..." to let us know just how inefficient Windows Maybe it won't be too much longer.is.
Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
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Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#122Wait until the programs you need to run only work on w11.
Isn’t backwards compatibility one of the tentpole features of Windows? If you meant future versions of apps, sure, but I’d otherwise not expect this to be a problem in any significant sense.
> Isn’t backwards compatibility one of the tentpole features of Windows?
It was. A long time ago. Running old games on Windows has become challenging.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#123The reason for the TPM requirement (I heard, anyway) was so they could dump a decade or so’s worth of compatability fixes. Which is fine, but dropping support for Windows 10 is just gouging from organisations who require support, and potentially leaving consumers who are ‘just fine’ with their PC and Windows 10 without security fixes - [0] ‘Windows 10 will lose security support in October 2025’ [0] https://www.which.…
>Which is fine, but dropping support for Windows 10 is just gouging from organisations who require support, and potentially leaving consumers who are ‘just fine’ with their PC and Windows 10 without security fixes - [0] That seems... fine? Once upon a time, windows had a fixed support lifecycle of 10 years, and you had pay to upgrade to the latest version. Windows 10 was released in 2015 and will be supported until 2…
2015?! Wow. Did not realise that. (I have to use Windows for work, but that’s Server 2022). You are quite correct, that does change the perspective.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
you can get keys from a reseller quite cheap
Not to be too pedantic, but aren't those typically being purchased under some other license that doesn't apply to you (bulk, oem, cheaper country, etc) and then resold in violation of the licensing terms? And that's when they're not just "pirated" themselves? Seems at that point you might as well just skip paying whatever questionable middleman in involved if you're not concerned about abiding by TOS or license.
I haven't read the entire EULA to be 100% sure, but Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 can be found with MS solution partners so I don't think they would be in violation with M$.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t backwards compatibility one of the tentpole features of Windows? If you meant future versions of apps, sure, but I’d otherwise not expect this to be a problem in any significant sense.
> Isn’t backwards compatibility one of the tentpole features of Windows? It was. A long time ago. Running old games on Windows has become challenging.
Genuinely not trying to move goalposts here, but I feel like games have always been the exception, due in part to their reliance on so many of-the-time technologies, at least for AAA titles. Either way yours is a fair point. I still think the original point broadly holds for more traditional programs though.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t backwards compatibility one of the tentpole features of Windows? If you meant future versions of apps, sure, but I’d otherwise not expect this to be a problem in any significant sense.
"programs you need to run only work on w11" is forwards compatibility, not backwards compatibility.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing here. It’s backwards compatibility if a given version of say, Photoshop, designed to run on Windows N, now runs on Windows N+1 as well… at least from the perspective of the OS, which is what we’re discussing?
It’s forwards compatibility if we’re discussing the idea of the program being compatible with future versions of Windows, but that’s neither the point of what was suggested, nor is it realistic — breaking changes, or compatibility, are going to be at Microsoft’s hands and largely an intentional decision at a platform level, not something an individual developer can shore up against.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#127I went from 7 copies of Windows 11 Pro in personal use - all purchased at full price - to using none now.
Now they are all combinations of FreeBSD, Debian, and Endeavour.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
> barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility How so? Apart from a handful of edge cases that not even remotely true to being true.
I ditched Windows when 7 went EOL. I've been using Linux for years now. Other than the shitshow online clouds that think I'm a malicious robot, Linux works absolutely great for everyday desktop/school/work use, and is generally great for games as such. It's easier to install, easier to update, easier to manage, and easier to find useful apps for than I ever had to deal with on Windows, macOS, iOS, or Android.
Yes. Linux can work well for people who need nothing besides a browser and maybe minimal doc. editing. Also for people on the opposite side of the scale.
There is a huge gap in the middle though. Having to solve random problems you’ll have (and you most certainly will) using the terminal is just not a good experience for most users.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#129The Windows 11 Explorer titlebar is always colored depression-gray One of the most baffling aspects of modern Windows is that it's ridiculously hard to tell at a glance which window is active. It used to be that the active window's title bar was bright blue, and everything else was gray. These days, I have two 2560x1440 monitors, which was unimaginable back in the day, and regularly fail to identify which window is a…
Any window that is based on good old Win32 API title bar will have proper title bar accent color (ex: Run dialog) BUT the new generation of WinUI based windows wont have this coz it looks like they render their own "header bar" or something.
WinUI right now is so bad that even resizing the window show partial blank area that you can see before the whole area gets repainted again.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN will never let facts stand in the way of good FUD.
It's Snarkiness, not FUD. Neither fear, uncertainty nor doubt involved here. And I think everyone knew from context that the claim was strongly tongue in cheek.
I think it's more looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses, and forgetting that some of the things that have improved over the past decades wern't always that way.
I too have nostalgia for the days when my start menu didn't phone home to microsoft, and focused on making my computer useful rather than trying to sell me stuff. Would I give up things like hi-dpi support to get that back? Hell no.