Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
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Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
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Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#2Yeah, this pretty much sums up the Windows 11 experience—bloated, slow, and packed with features no one asked for. The fact that Microsoft is doubling down on hardware requirements despite clear pushback just shows how out of touch they are. TPM might have some theoretical security benefits, but for home users? Totally irrelevant.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#3> But the TPM nonsense potentially marks even rather new and ultra-powerful computers as unsuitable for the upgrade.
TPM has been built into processors for what... 5-7 years now? What mythical "new" x64 is this individual talking about?
When I see someone arguing against TPM, it's fairly easy to write their argument off. They don't understand what it's used for or why, which is fine, but like those gamers discussing fixed page files, their opinion is just wrong.
> There's another piece of self-contradiction in that article - BitLocker uses TPM 2.0 for encryption key storage. Amazing, except, again, HOME users cannot even run this BitLocker thingie, even if they want.
The author is uninformed. Microsoft calls the Win 11 Home version "Device Encryption", essentially an unconfigurable version of Bitlocker. It's still BL under the hood.
> ut then, when you think about it, if the system has TPM and encryption, and it's configured in a "clever" way, then you can't have this lovely freedom of deleting unnecessary stuff, now can you?
Author isn't aware of dislocker. But keep on being smarmy.
Anyway, this article is hardly worth HN's time.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#4Wait until the programs you need to run only work on w11.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#5If the first thing someone does is find a way to remove Windows Defender, I'm going to assume they're too clever for their own good.
Windows defender is one of the best things Microsoft did for Windows. Prior to defender, the array of vendor AV solutions was a complete shit-show. Even previously useful options got bought out by the major players and stuffed full of crap-ware.
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#6I'm glad Dell Refurbished only sells workstations with Windows 10 Pro. It's not a pleasant experience but still way better than Windows 11. I wish they had Windows LTSC though.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#7yeah, I've been forced onto it by corporate on my windows machine.. from an aesthetic and usability point of view, there's only negatives.. the ui is even worse than 10, flat and featureless and ugly, looks like a bad prototype theme for gnome, 20 years ago.
They somehow managed to take the utter mess that were the settings of windows 10 and redefine the word utter to a new low.
I'm sure there's some technical things in the kernel and system API that needed changing, but somehow I feel like they could have done that without changing anything that's on the screen..
I wonder if they actually put the thought and consideration into windows user experience that they did when they designed Chicago.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#8Wait until the programs you need to run only work on w11.
Honestly, this is one of the biggest boons for Linux. If your stuff isn't gonna work on Win11 and it isn't gonna work on Linux, so either way you need to make a change, then why not pick Linux? The barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility, so it's an easier choice than it's been in the past. (obviously I'm still not gonna recommend Linux to someone who uses Autodesk products or is very heavily invested into Adobe or needs some niche windows programs that don't run elsewhere)
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#9> But the TPM nonsense potentially marks even rather new and ultra-powerful computers as unsuitable for the upgrade. TPM has been built into processors for what... 5-7 years now? What mythical "new" x64 is this individual talking about? When I see someone arguing against TPM, it's fairly easy to write their argument off. They don't understand what it's used for or why, which is fine, but like those gamers discussing…
I had a Ryzen 1700 that didn't meet the windows 11 tpm standard. It was still working well for everything I threw at it, but I guess a little short of "modern".
It still seems a arbitrary cut off for waste though. If TPM is standard enough on hardware surely adoption would happen regardless of OS requirements?
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#10Wait until the programs you need to run only work on w11.
Honestly, this is one of the biggest boons for Linux. If your stuff isn't gonna work on Win11 and it isn't gonna work on Linux, so either way you need to make a change, then why not pick Linux? The barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility, so it's an easier choice than it's been in the past. (obviously I'm still not gonna recommend Linux to some…
> barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility
How so? Apart from a handful of edge cases that not even remotely true to being true.