This is just gonna get worse with even better internet connectivity in the future, and consumers jumping on it because subscriptions requires much less cash outlay than owning hardware that runs the value generating part of the app.
Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
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Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#22If the first thing someone does is find a way to remove Windows Defender, I'm going to assume they're too clever for their own good. Windows defender is one of the best things Microsoft did for Windows. Prior to defender, the array of vendor AV solutions was a complete shit-show. Even previously useful options got bought out by the major players and stuffed full of crap-ware.
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#24> But the TPM nonsense potentially marks even rather new and ultra-powerful computers as unsuitable for the upgrade. TPM has been built into processors for what... 5-7 years now? What mythical "new" x64 is this individual talking about? When I see someone arguing against TPM, it's fairly easy to write their argument off. They don't understand what it's used for or why, which is fine, but like those gamers discussing…
I had a Ryzen 1700 that didn't meet the windows 11 tpm standard. It was still working well for everything I threw at it, but I guess a little short of "modern". It still seems a arbitrary cut off for waste though. If TPM is standard enough on hardware surely adoption would happen regardless of OS requirements?
> Ryzen 1700
Surely you jest.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, this is one of the biggest boons for Linux. If your stuff isn't gonna work on Win11 and it isn't gonna work on Linux, so either way you need to make a change, then why not pick Linux? The barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility, so it's an easier choice than it's been in the past. (obviously I'm still not gonna recommend Linux to some…
> barrier to entry for Win11 is much closer to the barrier to entry for Linux now in terms of program compatibility How so? Apart from a handful of edge cases that not even remotely true to being true.
Other than the shitshow online clouds that think I'm a malicious robot, Linux works absolutely great for everyday desktop/school/work use, and is generally great for games as such.
It's easier to install, easier to update, easier to manage, and easier to find useful apps for than I ever had to deal with on Windows, macOS, iOS, or Android.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#26> But the TPM nonsense potentially marks even rather new and ultra-powerful computers as unsuitable for the upgrade. TPM has been built into processors for what... 5-7 years now? What mythical "new" x64 is this individual talking about? When I see someone arguing against TPM, it's fairly easy to write their argument off. They don't understand what it's used for or why, which is fine, but like those gamers discussing…
interesting. TPM as an optional feature and going forward I would be perfectly fine with. It is a forced feature no one is really asking for. That is why the pushback. Instead it is 'oh just buy a new PC'. Totally blind to the people with older PC's that are perfectly fine to continue using. But now they need to refresh and spend several hundred bucks for a feature they do not understand or care about.
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#27Microsoft knows this and therefore focuses more on cloudifying all your apps, I.e. your windows Pc becomes a thin client for Microsoft hosted services, ensuring infinite revenue. This is just gonna get worse with even better internet connectivity in the future, and consumers jumping on it because subscriptions requires much less cash outlay than owning hardware that runs the value generating part of the app.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#28Wait until the programs you need to run only work on w11.
Re: Windows 11 – There's still nothing worth my time
#29If the first thing someone does is find a way to remove Windows Defender, I'm going to assume they're too clever for their own good. Windows defender is one of the best things Microsoft did for Windows. Prior to defender, the array of vendor AV solutions was a complete shit-show. Even previously useful options got bought out by the major players and stuffed full of crap-ware.
You know something is awesome when the putrid market wails like a banshee.