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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by tushgaurav »

DoctorOW wrote: post #11

I feel like this would've been better as a VSCode extension. Copilot, Q, Gemini, all were able to take this approach. Also, VSCode isn't considered a full IDE and adding some AI features isn't enough to change that. It seems like they forked VS Code just for the ability to say they "created an IDE" in the same way other projects fork Chromium to "build a browser".

No, I don't think that's possible, VSCode's extension API is pretty limited. This is the reason that we have cursor as a separate application.

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Post by blackoil »

msoad wrote: post #67

Can someone please do some security research on this to see what it sends when it calls home? I'm terrified to install a binary like that

Unless you are using self hosted llm, you can assume all the code is being sent to the server. This is true for all similar services.

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Post by bni »

toprerules wrote: post #26

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

Heresy!

Also don't believe your lying eyes.

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Post by [deleted] »

toprerules wrote: post #26

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

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Post by insane_dreamer »

toprerules wrote: post #26

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

Same here. I find it useful for:

- autocompletion (about half the time)

- questions on the syntax for certain commands (faster than looking up in the docs, usually pretty accurate)

- questions for how to solve a particular problem or gotcha (faster than looking up on SO, but also less accurate)

It's a useful tool for certain cases, for sure. But it's not a "game changer" in terms of productivity.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ioulaum »

thekevan wrote: post #119

There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…

I doubt that this sends back tons of data.

Early TikTok was basically a standard Chinese startup in terms of how they collected data to optimize the app... It's not because they cared about what "you" are doing.

The Chinese tech ecosystem is just more competitive than the US one.

Most social media companies have been careless with data until they got public backlash though... TikTok's systems are probably more secure today than anyone else's... Because of the backlash.

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Post by ioulaum »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

$20/mo isn't a lot... Especially if you make money with coding.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ioulaum »

muixoozie wrote: post #37
thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been coding for around 25 years, I have 3 or so subscriptions to different AI products that I use for coding. It is kind of terrifying that I probably would stop coding for the day if those subscriptions end. (I get far too much convenience out of them) I have tried to rationalize it by the fact that I do pay for internet, and version control, and my peripherals etc

You should check out openrouter if you haven't already.

It's been a little janky for me - usually get better results from directly using a provider's API.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by ioulaum »

wood_spirit wrote: post #104
jofzar wrote: post #14

Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

This is being talked about in real life as we post on HN: the new administration has a different opinion on this https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn0y51z7wedt (I am guessing that there will be a deal floated for Elon to buy TikTok in a few weeks)

It's doubtful if he can pony up another $50 billion.

Although, if TikTok's earnings can cover the payments on the loan, it could be possible.

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