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Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by cjk2 »

goodburb wrote: post #55

Couldn't see older photos/videos in the Photo app. Reminder for any iOS user that needs instant iCloud Photos backups (instead of manual monthly), get a Mac Mini, enable the Photos app, disable optimize for storage and keep it on to keep your memories safe. Always check the recently deleted folder on the Mac every month since iCloud by design is a two-way sync and not a backup, unlike most clouds that are one-way upl…

Yeah this. I keep a weekly time machine and quarterly "copy everything to an SSD without time machine" backup in place.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

GoofballJones wrote: post #89
cjk2 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not exactly true. I can lift and shift to Google or Microsoft or standalone if I want to in a day easily. I just don’t want to! (I have tested this - always have an exit strategy)

Yeah, I never understood this whole "you're locked in, you can't get out of their ecosystem." This has always been BS. I've switched from Apple to PC to Linux back to PC to Apple back to PC and then Android etc etc. It's actually quite simple. At the moment I'm using Apple stuff, but there's nothing holding me here other than just me being here.

This is missing the point.

Suppose Walmart has a monopoly in California and Target has a monopoly in Florida. Anybody in California can shop at Target, they just have to go to Florida. "I've switched from California to Florida and then back, it's actually quite simple."

But if you're in California and you need some batteries, even if flying to Florida to buy them from Target is possible, even if you used to live in Florida and might move back there next year, even if you have the money to buy the $300 plane ticket, it's still prohibitively expensive to do it solely to avoid a $5 markup on batteries. Then the two stores don't really have to compete, and you get stuck paying the monopoly price for everything. That's what it means to be locked in.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by 1oooqooq »

dsego wrote: post #42

The thing that scared me recently was two updates that gave me new encryption keys. At first I trusted apple and wrote down the new key. But I became suspicious after the second update and checked online. It seems like it's happening to others, so I used the recommended command-line tool to verify my new encryption key and it didn't verify. Apparently it works after disabling and enabling encryption, but I'm just kee…

maybe apple is tired of copying Samsung and will copy google for once :)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38043574

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by malka »

quitit wrote: post #70

As a tip: use your AppleID to generate a secondary email that you use for your day to day email, while keeping the login email secret. The problem stems from nefarious groups getting a hold of email addresses and running distributed dictionary attacks. Apple’s response is to prevent all logins (including valid ones) from accounts that are under attack. Unlocking the account involves calling Apple, they’re not going t…

What a shitty idea to use public information as a login.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by zikduruqe »

vondur wrote: post #8

Happened to me today. First got the message on my computer that my location was unknown and needed to enter a code from the phone. By the end of it, I had to reset my Apple password. No idea why it happened.

Happened to me last night. I got a push notification on my watch that I needed to update my iCloud password. I thought that this isn't right, so I went to my phone and MacBook. Same thing, those devices said I needed to change my password. So I figured someone has my @iCloud email address and tried to login. I do have hardware keys setup, so wasn't terribly worried.

But none the less, I liked my old password and had to change to something else.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by 1oooqooq »

cjk2 wrote: post #29
Animats wrote: post #20

Apple says there is nothing wrong.[1] When your identity provider has total control over your life, and you signed away your right to sue for damages, this is what happens. [1] https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/

I suspect there is nothing wrong as such ie the system is working as intended. The intention is either overzealous or broken. As for not suing them, I suspect that wouldn’t wash if you were deprived of property due to a software issue.

exactly. they already hit the revenue goals even with shitty quality. it's the only goal that motivates work and in a monopoly it's tied to market size only.

what's a few thousand people per month losing all access to their data, if that is not even a blip on their revenue or revenue protections?

if you're going to buy a new iphone, you're going to buy a new iphone. it doesn't matter the slightest if you read some nerds complaining something broke one theirs that same week.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by renk »

dsego wrote: post #42

The thing that scared me recently was two updates that gave me new encryption keys. At first I trusted apple and wrote down the new key. But I became suspicious after the second update and checked online. It seems like it's happening to others, so I used the recommended command-line tool to verify my new encryption key and it didn't verify. Apparently it works after disabling and enabling encryption, but I'm just kee…

That was the moment I started browsing „freebsd desktop“ forum posts…

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by 1oooqooq »

notemaker wrote: post #73

With risk of being spammy, this is probably the most relevant discussion I've seen so far on HN w.r.t my experience of being locked out from my Apple ID. I hope legislation will force Apple to step up and be more transparent / helpful. https://skogsbrus.xyz/dont-put-all-your-apples-in-one-basket...

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Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by Rinzler89 »

teekert wrote: post #54
leptons wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only does the "walled garden" keep you safe, the walls are also too tall to escape it.

I use Tailscale, NextCloud (files, pics, calendar, contacts), Podverse, Obsidian, Bitwarden (Vaultwarden), Home Assistant, ProtonMail, Signal, Element, …. If my iPhone (iCloud) goes down it’s just a node in the network with all my data still my own and available.

That's great for you and everyone on HN who's tech savvy, but your average smartphone user has no idea what those even mean let alone how to set them up and use them. Your parent is right and is being needlessly downvoted.

My dad is often defeated on how to set up or use basic features of his smartphone, let alone on how to migrate stuff from one ecosystem to another, which let's be real, is purposely designed to be as friction inducing as possible.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by cjk2 »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #122
GoofballJones wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I never understood this whole "you're locked in, you can't get out of their ecosystem." This has always been BS. I've switched from Apple to PC to Linux back to PC to Apple back to PC and then Android etc etc. It's actually quite simple. At the moment I'm using Apple stuff, but there's nothing holding me here other than just me being here.

This is missing the point. Suppose Walmart has a monopoly in California and Target has a monopoly in Florida. Anybody in California can shop at Target, they just have to go to Florida. "I've switched from California to Florida and then back, it's actually quite simple." But if you're in California and you need some batteries, even if flying to Florida to buy them from Target is possible , even if you used to live in…

This is a crap analogy.

You buy different stuff, copy your data across and sell the original stuff.

That’s not lock in. It is if there is no other stuff to buy.

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