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Toyota's wireless carplay lets you switch in the Settings very quickly (10-15 seconds to get there). So they're not universally bad at least.
10-15 seconds is an eternity. I can switch the bluetooth phone connected in a 10 year old car in 10-15 seconds.
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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Toyota's wireless carplay lets you switch in the Settings very quickly (10-15 seconds to get there). So they're not universally bad at least.
10-15 seconds is an eternity. I can switch the bluetooth phone connected in a 10 year old car in 10-15 seconds.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#123How does this business decision make sense? A car is a high-margin item, so the impact of even a handful of consumers choosing not to buy must be huge, right? Whereas, they would need to "monetize" (ugh) many many more units to turn back that lost profit. And as the shakeup due to EVs begins, even loyal consumers will be considering other makes. My girlfriend bought a car recently. CarPlay was not negotiable for her,…
Even if some people won't buy the car if it doesn't have Carplay, it's worth it because of how profitable selling services is, because people don't do the mental math on the cost.
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#124Detaching the entertainment system from the car and making it just a dumb touchscreen and speakers must have really grinded the gears of auto makers. I can now upgrade my entire entertainment system, GPS, phone, etc. by replacing a phone. They’d prefer you get another car when your system is feeling old. I don’t even understand why my 2020 car had an optional GPS add-on for thousands of dollars. Android Auto / CarPla…
What I don't understand is why most of the replacement head units have CD/DVD players. (not that recent cars allow you to replace anything)
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#125Detaching the entertainment system from the car and making it just a dumb touchscreen and speakers must have really grinded the gears of auto makers. I can now upgrade my entire entertainment system, GPS, phone, etc. by replacing a phone. They’d prefer you get another car when your system is feeling old. I don’t even understand why my 2020 car had an optional GPS add-on for thousands of dollars. Android Auto / CarPla…
had an optional GPS add-on for thousands of dollars I guess it's for people who don't know better. Even a standalone GPS won't cost that much, and as a bonus, you can take it with you.
(it's even better than tesla's nav system - you can plan your routes, avoid specific places, etc)
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#126When the EPA rules that consumers cannot own lithium batteries because you won't handle or dispose of them properly, then car manufacturers must have infrastructure in place that remotely monitors and manages the battery assets, i.e. hazardous waste. They are all working towards the inevitable future when you sign up for personal EV transportation using a monthly subscription just like your phones... Is it me, or doe…
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#127Car infotainment systems are terrible. That's the reason why everyone wants CarPlay and Android Auto. It's kind of like going back to flip phones after using smartphones for years.
Even if the infotainment is good today , GM is basically saying “trust me bro, 10 years from now maps on this decade old hardware are going to be so good you’ll want to pay a subscription for it.” I was thinking an Equinox EV would be my next car, but now I’m looking at gas vehicles and thinking I’ll give EVs a while longer to sort out which manufacturers earn a reputation for EV reliability, longevity, and good soft…
By the time some GM phone connect system got through the pipes (several years), we might be carrying AR glasses instead of phones.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#128How does this business decision make sense? A car is a high-margin item, so the impact of even a handful of consumers choosing not to buy must be huge, right? Whereas, they would need to "monetize" (ugh) many many more units to turn back that lost profit. And as the shakeup due to EVs begins, even loyal consumers will be considering other makes. My girlfriend bought a car recently. CarPlay was not negotiable for her,…
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
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CarPlay and AndroidAuto don’t give the car any access to the phone data and that’s the “problem” GM seems trying to “fix”. CarPlay and AndroidAuto protocols basically treat car’s display as a remote framebuffer.
> CarPlay and AndroidAuto don’t give the car any access to the phone data Perhaps that's changed. There have been warnings about using AndroidAuto and CarPlay with rental cars for years. Now that cars are increasingly collecting data and sending it home themselves, any info your personal car has collected from your phone or usage can be sent back too. https://www.wgal.com/article/connecting-your-cellphone-to-yo... ht…
> There’s no worry about CarPlay revealing any of your information to later car renters
And the NIH study just says there has not been any research done on the issue yet.
The issue isn't with Android Auto/CarPlay, but the legacy Bluetooth features that give the car access to your phonebook and SMS logs. You need to make sure to decline those when connecting your phone.
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There's been some controversy about data collection going the other way the Android side. https://www.motortrend.com/features/13-cool-facts-about-the-... > As part of the agreement an automaker would have to enter with Google, Porsche said certain pieces of data must be collected and transmitted back to Mountain View, California. Stuff like vehicle speed, throttle position, coolant and oil temp, engine revs—basically…
Yeah but this is par for the course for android, it's less about android auto and more about Google being Google. Reclaim your privacy. Buy an iPhone.