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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by [deleted] »

violini wrote: post #81
cypress66 wrote: post #67

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I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be…

I think the main problem here is that people are enjoying the witch hunt too much, and this prevents them from weighting up alternative explanations that aren't as dramatic. My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusatio…

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by SpEd3Y »

smcl wrote: post #71
Ekaros wrote: post #40

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Because no one should care. Just fully ignore them, do not engage with trolls or people whose politics you don't care about. Maybe we should instead ban those who call out this stuff or describe it in malicious ways...

GitHub will have removed this because they don't want to be seen hosting racist shit on their platform. They don't want that because as it turns out the vast majority of the population isn't on board with racism, so not doing so would empower their competitors, hurt their brand and affect their bottom line. It's the same with Disney (the "oh a black little mermaid!?" stuff) and all the other the other ultimately bana…

I agree with what you're saying. I don't like racist/homophobic/transphobic behavior but I find it hard to reconcile that with free speech. And I think they only way you can change someone's mind is by allowing free speech and engaging in conversations with them to try to change their minds. Banning them would just make them look for other channels to communicate and find like minded people and their bad ideas will never be challenged.

You mentioned the "black little mermaid" and it's hard not to draw a parallel between a mod in a game that allows you to change the skin color of a character and the "woke" media race swapping well known characters like the little mermaid, Triss from the Witcher, Achilles, etc.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by pelasaco »

Maybe I'm being naive, but reading this comment in his steam page, looks like he is well intentioned https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15187...

"Edit 26-mar-2020: finally, the injustice has been corrected: all races are welcome! You can choose the range of skin colors you want in mod settings."

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by reset-password »

noirscape wrote: post #68
muglug wrote: post #43

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There’s a Reddit thread that goes into some detail: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au...

So it seems the actual reason for the suspension is that Automatic had a mod for the colony-sim game RimWorld that disables certain skin colors from appearing in the game. If you're not familiar, these sorts of mods are near universally made for racist dogwhistling; they're the "barely passable but not really" version of mods that would straight up whitewash non-white characters. The entire debacle started a couple o…

RimWorld is a single player game. They're upset about people making modifications that affect .. literally no one else? What a strange world to live in.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by oefrha »

smcl wrote: post #112
luckylion wrote: post #86

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So (((disfigured feet))) in the linked prompt means the feet are Jewish, and it's not about increasing the term weight? Thanks, I learned something new today.

Well if there was a person called "disfigured feet" who was Jewish, and you always referred to their name in triple-parens (and for some reason you repeatedly tweeted a bunch of Jewish people, always with the triple-parens) then yes this would be an good indication that you were using it as an anti-semitic dogwhistle. However the GP was careful to note that context is important here. I've no idea about term weights i…

Context is important in theory, but it certainly didn’t stop dijit from deciding that (((disfigured feet))), which they did not quote, was “pretty disgusting”.

In this climate, it takes one Twitter personality with a lot of followers to tweet out a “look at this racist” tweet with very vague references to your crimes, and that’s it, you’re a racist to a huge number of people who will probably never look beyond that single tweet. Good luck convincing 20% of them that you’re in fact innocent afterwards.

Edit: Years ago when I was part of a high profile open source project, I was once privately accused of being intolerant towards trans people. It happened after I sharply criticized some trans person's backwards-incompatible PR (which later proved to be pretty bad after being merged despite objections). I had no idea of the person's gender before the accusation, nor did I care after learning about it; they were simply an Internet handle to me. I also never used slurs towards any group. Looking back I'm just glad I wasn't shamed publicly.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by smcl »

Semaphor wrote: post #90
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #58

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Or that using the ok finger gesture briefly was career ending because 4chan openly declared a psyop to see if they could bait social media into declaring it a white supremacist symbol. Worked like a charm and hysteria abounded for a couple of months before the next hysteria was birthed and that one quickly forgotten. Unfortunately, some people who don't keep up with the day-to-day changes in what's considered unaccep…

Wow, that probably was contained within the US? Never heard of it. edit: Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol Seems like they managed to have white power fans actually adopt it.

So this is where I don't know what to think - I'm overseas and don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of alt-right culture. I only knew it after it was co-opted by Nick Fuentes and his circle so I don't know if it was:

1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power"

2. the news pick this up and runs with it

3. actual white nationalists started using it

or

1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power"

2. actual white nationalists started using it

3. the news reports that white nationalists are using it

News orgs can be easily fooled into reporting ridiculous fake shit and backfiring - like the whole "teens eating tide pods" thing causing a few teens and boomers to actually try eating them - so both are possible, I'd suspect that the latter is more likely though.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Semaphor »

iinnPP wrote: post #64
isoprophlex wrote: post #25

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Strange if true. Those triple parentheses are weight modifiers, increasing the importance of the tokens inside. This reddit link posted elsewhere gives a more damning view, aside from the triple parentheses: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co...

I read through the Reddit thread and they seem to be focused on the letter n being tagged on certain names (they claim is stands for the n word with strong racist meaning.) Later someone points out that there is another artist who paints mostly darker skin tones who also has the n identifier. I can, immediately and without effort, see why this might be added. As a way to force representation in output. This is, to me…

n: There are also black artists tagged that way who seem to very rarely depict people at all. And both the white and 1+ of the n-tagged black artists depicted some non-black people.

Rimworld: It was whites only at first, black only got added later and then integrated.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Hasnep »

doodlesdev wrote: post #53
fhd2 wrote: post #18

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I know you're joking, but what I suppose would need to happen is for someone to also come up with ways to do federated code discovery, search, browsing and ways to show off contributions. For issues and PRs there's mailing lists, but it seems the young uns are appalled by that, so maybe that too.

Gitea and forks exist, Fossil is also a plausible alternative although it seems not everyone likes its workflow. Maybe discovery could be handled simillar to Mastodon through ActivityPub, I think it wouldn't even be too hard to integrate into existing Git code forges.

Forgejo [1] (a fork of Gitea) is working on integrating activitypub [2].

[1] https://forgejo.org/ [2] https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by MissLaeti »

Semaphor wrote: post #26
dijit wrote: post #13

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> though it's pretty disgusting in other ways In what ways? All I can see is some furry porn stuff. Explicit and not my fetish, but what parts are disgusting?

I thought exactly the same. I think people just think that furry stuff and zoo/bestiality stuff are the same thing.
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