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Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

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Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#121

1. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…

> Fill your time with something else that you prioritize above work.

For me this is by far the hardest part. (But also I'm the type to just idly waste time instead of filling it with work.) For most of my life, coding was by far my favorite thing to do; I could do it for hours without noticing the time passing. But now it feels like work and I haven't found anything that remotely fills the hole in its place.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#122
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1. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…

But what if they aren't worth more (as a dev, financially) than they think they are? They could be awful, but naively put in a ton of hours. Why do we assume people are worth more? Are we trying to make them feel better by making assumptions and potentially leading them horribly astray? Most people are supremely mediocre and there are just and many horrible devs as their are great ones.

nice argument there dude. your self esteem must be skyrocketing. Op is crying for help, you talk like an AI. cheers!

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#123
I had the same problem, here's what helped me. You should have some savings. Quit and take some time off to chill. Vegetate at home for a bit, travel a bit, and start doing a few leetcode problems a week. Soon you'll realize that you're not as terrible at them as before. I learned and switched to using python solely for interviews, and it's been a fantastic choice.

Start interviewing at a few places. You'll realize you're horrible at it. But keep interviewing. Doing leetcode doesn't compare to just having the experience. Figure out what you need to improve on, which algos you struggle with, Coding Qs, Behavioural Qs. Interviews become easier once you figure out it's just a matter of applying a few rehearsed algos and rehearsed answers in different ways. There's only so many ways to ask "tell us about a difficult problem/coworker at work"

Polish your resume up, talk to your co-workers and friends if you need help explaining/remembering what you did. Re-write it three times until it looks good.

If you do this, you'll have something better lined up within a few months and some time to decompress and time to renew your skills and confidence in programming. Whenever I quit, I always remember why i enjoyed programming in the first place.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#124
Your brain fog issue could be medically caused. I certainly had that problem in my 20s.

Coming from a poorer background I was infected with Helicobacter Pylori (like 70% of world population). For years I couldn't beat brain fog no matter what I did (special diets, exercise, meditation etc.). Doctors kept telling me I'm having these issues cause I stressed a lot and I believed them and went through college and first job suffering terribly. Finally I managed to read about Helicobacter. My symptoms were matching 100%. Got the test and sure it was. Got a course of antibiotics for a week and it felt like being transported from hell directly to heaven. I've never experienced anything like it. After 5 days of taking antibiotics I've had the most amazing night of sleep that I remember to this day. That said, supposedly Helicobacter is not all that bad and even sometimes considered good according to some doctors I've spoken to. But I don't buy it, I just think that they think that on the population level it's unfeasible to treat everyone (due to antibiotic resistance issues) and because most people infected are in the poor countries - and you know how it goes "fuck the poor".

Excluding Helicobacter, brain fog can be caused by food intolerances (FODMAP, gluten etc.) and lack of exercise.

(my $0.02 from my experience fighting brain fog)

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#125

This sounds like adult ADHD, which is treatable: > only to never execute them for various reasons or get started with them only to never fully complete them and see it all the way through. > unable to concentrate, riddled with brain fog, and unsure of my future Go see a psychiatrist, mention those points and they will fix your problem in no time.

> Go see a psychiatrist, mention those points and they will fix your problem in no time.

It might take some time, but please start with a therapist.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#126

Greetings neighbor and fellow traveler. Here's a few ideas. * Do nothing. "Doing nothing often leads to the very best of something." - Winnie the pooh * Stop going to work. "I don't like my job and I don't think I'm gonna go anymore." Peter from Office space. * Let it all play out. My uncle Coydog used to say, "You got to let the river take its course." Well, what does that mean? I don't know. I used to ask him the s…

I loved the first two quotes. They went right into my notebook. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#127
Problems you have:

big picture problems:

- tunnel vision

- limited learning about what the rest of experience on this world is like

- no deep faith in good and benefit of the work you are doing

- being compensated with lots of money but little meaning

- lack of alignment with mission, and lack of social alignment with suitably "co-miserable" peers so that you can actually process (in an 'outside-of-yourself' way) the various crummy parts of your job

little picture problems about working smart not hard:

- trick I discovered: every time some of your code fails, you now have a moral imperative to yourself to prioritizing above everything a.) writing a unit test for that case, and b.) getting that unit test to pass. you will be saved insane amounts of time and sweat and tears in the future if you develop this way.

- using tools that make you waste precious brain cycles on trivial tasks with sparse and slow feedback loops - eg I just discovered the refactoring jetbrains tool

- constant refactoring code is actually insanely valuable. just literally copy and paste massive code blocks when you need to make something do something slightly different, refactor out the common part, etc. to build a better theory of the actual solution to the problem.

tbh I now no longer really understand how I spent so much mental effort writing code all in my head without these principles:

1.) red-green unit testing

2.) IDE refactoring tools

3.) imperative to refactor

give it a shot, it may help unburden your brain significantly!! and it's FUN to work FAST and be CONFIDENT in your code at the same time!

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#128
Your self worth is not tied to your job or what salary you get.

You can do all the Leetcode in the world but your mental state is stuck in a negative state.

So you need to detach your self identity from your self worth and then give yourself small wins.

That is, start with small problems, ideally with the help of a kind mentor.

Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around

#129
Focus on yourself first. I’d get a good therapist, someone who resonates with you and listens to you, start exercising regularly, even a little/moderate amount helps, and find something you enjoy doing outside of work.

You’re still very young and just have the “oh shit” moment that we all get.

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