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Re: Goodbye Freenode

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Post by Krisando »

phoe-krk wrote: post #4

The current Libera Chat[0] is everything that Freenode was before rasengan entered the game: a stable IRC network that goes out of its way to be transparent to the communities and projects that use it and to provide them with stability and network operator support, period. The current Fleenode is nothing that Freenode was before rasengan entered the game: it destroyed the stability of all the projects that previously…

> a stable IRC network that goes out of its way to be transparent to the communities and projects that use it and to provide them with stability and network operator support, period.

Honestly, communities should just make their own IRC servers, they're trivial in resources to run and manage, there is no need for Libera or Freenode.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

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Post by phone8675309 »

edwardkmett wrote: post #93
xena wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

14:59 IRCCloud was not klined by mistake. 14:59 We don't allow IRCCloud on freenode. 14:59 We offer our own free BNC, if you'd like to use that instead.

"Use our bouncer or else." Sounds like a very democratic, open source, do what you will solution to me.

Their thought process: "It's only oppression when it happens to me, otherwise it's just my freedom of choice"

Re: Goodbye Freenode

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Post by 1337shadow »

hluska wrote: post #39
marcan_42 wrote: post #21

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They're not just transphobia-friendly; one of their new ops got opped right after uttering a transphobic slur in a very transphobic sentence. Their own staff are openly transphobes.

If any trans people read this, I’m sorry some people are like that but I love the hell out of you.

No problem, I'm trans and I'm not forcing anyone to like it. Just don't punch me in the face or something. I'm back on freenode because I like that that freedom of speech even when I disagree, this must be my Voltaire-ish side.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

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Post by techrat »

Krisando wrote: post #121
phoe-krk wrote: post #4

The current Libera Chat[0] is everything that Freenode was before rasengan entered the game: a stable IRC network that goes out of its way to be transparent to the communities and projects that use it and to provide them with stability and network operator support, period. The current Fleenode is nothing that Freenode was before rasengan entered the game: it destroyed the stability of all the projects that previously…

> a stable IRC network that goes out of its way to be transparent to the communities and projects that use it and to provide them with stability and network operator support, period. Honestly, communities should just make their own IRC servers, they're trivial in resources to run and manage, there is no need for Libera or Freenode.

Oh yes, fantastic idea. A separate server for each of the 30, 40ish channels I participate in. That would not be annoying in the least.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#125

Post by Krisando »

techrat wrote: post #124
Krisando wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a stable IRC network that goes out of its way to be transparent to the communities and projects that use it and to provide them with stability and network operator support, period. Honestly, communities should just make their own IRC servers, they're trivial in resources to run and manage, there is no need for Libera or Freenode.

Oh yes, fantastic idea. A separate server for each of the 30, 40ish channels I participate in. That would not be annoying in the least.

It's not like it matters to most bouncers.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#126

Post by 1337shadow »

edwardkmett wrote: post #93
xena wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

14:59 IRCCloud was not klined by mistake. 14:59 We don't allow IRCCloud on freenode. 14:59 We offer our own free BNC, if you'd like to use that instead.

"Use our bouncer or else." Sounds like a very democratic, open source, do what you will solution to me.

Not quite what they said, however, IRCCloud is all but Open Source.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

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Post by robbyoconnor »

SaberUK wrote: post #92
mst wrote: post #84

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Apparently rasengan likes it too inpspiricd is a good project but we'll make it way better sadie is pretty good for a noob but obviously its time to take things serious

Yeah I heard that. It's GPLv2 licensed so he's free to use it (if he can even migrate his services database without corrupting it) but his lackies have been informed that they will be banned on sight if they try to ask for support.

They basically just nuked the whole thing. I had my nick for over 17 years and was kind of clinging to it...just pathetic.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#128

Post by Phanes »

morelisp wrote: post #94
caramelcream wrote: post #78

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>If I were starting an IRC channel for a free software project now, I would put it on OFTC, which has a real governance model with elections and - mysteriously - also manages to be drama-free. I'm not sure if it's completely drama-free. During the community meeting on the future of FSF's presence on IRC[1], someone shared these logs: https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/oftc/2021/05/01 https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/oftc/2021/…

bagira/phanes is an extremely well-known troll, banned from multiple networks, who is likely clinically paranoid. Their moderation policies are fine.

Hi, I'm bagira/phanes. The only networks I've ever been banned from are OFTC and Freenode, most of which is recent.

I admire your courage, anonymous liar on the internet.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#129

Post by Phanes »

morelisp wrote: post #94
caramelcream wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If I were starting an IRC channel for a free software project now, I would put it on OFTC, which has a real governance model with elections and - mysteriously - also manages to be drama-free. I'm not sure if it's completely drama-free. During the community meeting on the future of FSF's presence on IRC[1], someone shared these logs: https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/oftc/2021/05/01 https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/oftc/2021/…

bagira/phanes is an extremely well-known troll, banned from multiple networks, who is likely clinically paranoid. Their moderation policies are fine.

I should clarify, I'm banned on Libera as they are banning all of the Freenode staff. I am not banned on the new Freenode network.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#130

Post by Phanes »

Phanes wrote: post #129
morelisp wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bagira/phanes is an extremely well-known troll, banned from multiple networks, who is likely clinically paranoid. Their moderation policies are fine.

I should clarify, I'm banned on Libera as they are banning all of the Freenode staff. I am not banned on the new Freenode network.

I should also clarify that the people who banned me on *(old) Freenode and the people who banned me on OFTC are the same physical persons.
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