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The Linux kernel is the singular decent component of Android.
On the contrary, the way Android forces security best practices, by allowing native code only to be used for implementing native methods, enabling all security mechanisms by default, use containerized applications and moving away from ossified POSIX APIs (except for what ISO C and ISO C++ require) are Android's best features.
Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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The problem is that, in general, when a company doesn't respect intellectual property laws or obviously makes use of industrial espionage (and I'm not suggesting either is true for Huawei) they are sending a clear signal that laws do not apply to them. So as a customer why would I trust any company with my most personal health, banking or own intellectual property if that company sees no reasonable limitations to its…
You might be the sort of person who takes a principled stand against intellectual property, so not see Huawei's behaviour as inconsistent with protecting consumer privacy? I don't personally trust Huawei to behave responsibly. But I don't really trust any other company either. Android is basically a Google anti-privacy play. Western IP law is arguably just a tool to delay Chinese progress (speaking from an internatio…
That's uncharitable. Android effectively started as a pro-web play: a way to ensure Google could deliver their services to mobile users regardless of what mobile manufacturers wanted (we're talking Nokia and Blackberry, which dominated the sector at the time and, together with phone carriers, could dictate what would or would not get to phones). They later got greedy with data-siphoning, but Apple effectively does the same, they're just a bit shy about over-exploiting it.
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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It would be cool if we could discuss the technology for once instead of spinning into a geopolitical discussion or meaningless copycat allegations which likely will lead nowhere.
This kind of pragmatism is what leads to this kind of dystopian technologies.
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
#126I appreciate the gesture but app developers in the West are firmly and irrevocably slaves to Google.
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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You might be the sort of person who takes a principled stand against intellectual property, so not see Huawei's behaviour as inconsistent with protecting consumer privacy? I don't personally trust Huawei to behave responsibly. But I don't really trust any other company either. Android is basically a Google anti-privacy play. Western IP law is arguably just a tool to delay Chinese progress (speaking from an internatio…
> Android is basically a Google anti-privacy play. That's uncharitable. Android effectively started as a pro-web play: a way to ensure Google could deliver their services to mobile users regardless of what mobile manufacturers wanted (we're talking Nokia and Blackberry, which dominated the sector at the time and, together with phone carriers, could dictate what would or would not get to phones). They later got greedy…
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
#128Huawei has "OS Kernel Lab" in their research division [1] and seems to do real research, including building an OS kernel. I guess they at least tried to ditch Android at a point. I'm not supporting their PR strategy. Just interesting to see where a corporate research goes. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=huawei+OS+Kernel+Lab
The Linux kernel is the singular decent component of Android.
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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I did submit this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27378926 Which has some example code - as I understand it the apps will look just like android apps.
Fancy! I don't understand who would in their right mind, except for web devs, prefer this to Kotlin + Compose.
There are just far more JavaScript developers out there than android Java/kotlin developers.
Also if you just distribute the js, the apps would get quite small, so maybe you no longer need an App Store with an explicit installation step but instead you could just browse the apps on the internet like you would browse web pages.
Re: Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also Android
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On the contrary, the way Android forces security best practices, by allowing native code only to be used for implementing native methods, enabling all security mechanisms by default, use containerized applications and moving away from ossified POSIX APIs (except for what ISO C and ISO C++ require) are Android's best features.
Oh yeah, I forgot about how that fixed the malware problems on the platform.