Poor Mac users
You spelled "Windows" wrong.
Why poor? Why post something like this without an explanation? Does it make you feel good?
Maybe you didn't know that Mac has had office for more than a decade.
Office 365 is now on Mac App Store
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#122Is it sandboxed?
Apparently, though it seems to have been granted quite a few exceptions: $ codesign -d --entitlements - /Applications/Microsoft\ Word.app/ Executable=/Applications/Microsoft Word.app/Contents/MacOS/Microsoft Word com.apple.security.cs.disable-library-validation com.apple.developer.aps-environment production com.apple.security.assets.pictures.read-only com.apple.security.temporary-exception.sbpl (allow file-read* file…
If you are big you can get exceptions to get onto mac app store . The is not the long waiting fix for Mac App Store that would show signs of development.
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#123Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…
If you're so vested into microsoft's products you should stay on windows. There's always going to be that one thing you can't do for people like you, so why bother? For the rest of the world, office for mac has been amazing, and works perfectly. The people who I got on mac (around 4, I believe) are pretty heavy Office users, and they haven't complained once. They have, however, actually said to me that they're shocked by the difference between what they're told about mac and how it actually is, and they quite literally thanked me that I showed them mac.
Office for mac is perfect for 99.9% of users. You can always bootcamp, but like I said, if you really need to use all those obscure features you know from windows, then yeah, stay on windows.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I knew they've had full Office since forever. I just didn't know if the App Store version itself was full Office or a mobile/web Office like on the iOS App Store.
According to this post [0], Microsoft use a "shared Office codebase for Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android". Before the individual iOS Office apps, Microsoft had an "Office mobile" app which may well have been a web app (though I can't find anything on that either way). [0] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Office-365-Blog/Share...
> According to this post [0], Microsoft use a "shared Office codebase for Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android".
At very least, from my experience, I believe the iOS, Mac and Windows do share the same underlying engine. The web version looks like a reimplementation that reimplements all its weird quirks… but there're still minor difference here and there.
I have to deal with few Japanese documentation which uses a relatively obscure feature exposed only to Japanese version of Office (e.g. I think it present in all versions now as "Enclosed Character") and so far every Word implementation fail to render that in the way it's expected to be rendered, but it renders consistently in all versions of Microsoft Office {Windows, iOS, Mac}.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Go to Office365.com 2. Login 3. Do you want to stay logged in? 4. Is your information up to date? 5. Office / OneCloud homepage ("Good evening"). Press 'Install Office' (its a secondary/white button that blends into background, whereas 'New doc' is a blue button). (20 URL redirects) 6. Installs page. Press 'Install Office' again. 7. Still Installs page, now with banner that says 'Your Office 365 subscription info…
> Office365 There's your problem right there. Just buy a perpetual Office license. The awful Adobe-style subscription model for desktop software that barely ever changes is ridiculous .
I rarely use Office products but I spend most of my day in some Office 365 product or another. There is a huge amount more to it than just Word.
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#126There are some services that are so worth the money that I am happy to pay for: Office 365, Dropbox, and GSuite. I am as much of a cheapskate as the next guy, but it makes sense to pay for services that help get work done and/or make life easier. I am curious if Microsoft is paying Apple a 30% cut, or if they got a better deal.
Is it really worth paying for Dropbox when you already have cloud storage bundled in with Office 365 (one drive) and GSuit (GDrive?)
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
On this note, Apple's 30% flat tax is a poor decision. I wonder how much of a hit Apple would take if the first $5000 per year per app was rebated. There's a long tail of mild-moderately successful apps that provide value to some, but may not be economic to continue. With this system, devs could re-invest ~50% more funds into their early-stage product if they could. It may pay for itself in future success and better…
If you include all the factors like market share, cost of hardware, flat tax, ecosystem tie-in, development costs, then it becomes doubtful whether it makes sense to support MacOS anyway. I'm pretty certain that for most smaller companies MacOS support is a money sink and they just don't calculate the development costs correctly or they want to support the platform for strategical or ideological reasons.
The Mac has an installed base of 100 million. If you think about the addressable market for a "smaller company", that's plenty. Saying that the Mac is too small for smaller companies to bother with is like saying that Germany is too small to run a small business in. It's demonstrably false.
Or are you arguing that other platforms have a better developer ROI? That's intriguing. Which ones, and why?
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#128Big question is, when is it coming to Linux
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many licenses of GSuite to you maintain? One license, $5 / month. Seems reasonable. I have six family members. $360 / year for GSuite, that's untenable to me.
I paid $400+ a year for personal accounts since GSuite went premium. I just switched over to another provider because I reached a tipping point of not being able to tolerate GSuite support - it is horrible. horrible. horrible. horrible. Took 1+ and 3+ weeks to resolve the only two minor issues we've ever had. Support replies were a series of unrelated prefilled replies, it seems whoever is on the other end is just ke…
I’m a subscriber to Office 365 and would use their mail service (whatever it’s called these days) but... I can’t bring my email address - which is on a grandfathered free ‘Google apps for your domain’ account. It’s a bit silly, considering I’m paying for this and can’t use it, but am getting Google’s email hosting and spam filter for free.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you include all the factors like market share, cost of hardware, flat tax, ecosystem tie-in, development costs, then it becomes doubtful whether it makes sense to support MacOS anyway. I'm pretty certain that for most smaller companies MacOS support is a money sink and they just don't calculate the development costs correctly or they want to support the platform for strategical or ideological reasons.
The Mac has an installed base of 100 million. If you think about the addressable market for a "smaller company", that's plenty. Saying that the Mac is too small for smaller companies to bother with is like saying that Germany is too small to run a small business in. It's demonstrably false. Or are you arguing that other platforms have a better developer ROI? That's intriguing. Which ones, and why?
Yes, basically that's what I'm saying. Why do you think even major companies think twice before porting an application to MacOS? For many small companies who are already providing a Windows solution porting the product to MacOS is a pain in the ass that may turn out not be worth it. Only a relatively small fraction of proprietary end consumer software can long-term sustain a business anyway. That's as true for the app store on MacOS as it is for iOS and Google Play on Android.
I'm not saying that there aren't some companies who make money on the app store, of course, that would be nonsense.