Office 365 is now on Mac App Store • Hacker News Board

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by toasterlovin » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 10:56 PM UTC

erichurkman wrote: post #17

kevindqc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's recent that it's the "same" Office though, no? It used to have different codebase (with, I'm sure, some reused code) and even had different release versions (ie: Office 2011 on Mac VS Office 2010/2013 on Windows) I dug a bit and I found this article[1] that says it's now using a common codebase for Office 2016 since January last year, so I guess it's not something new with this new release of Office 365 on mac.…

The quality on Mac is nowhere near the quality of Office on Windows. At least Excel. Slow, crashes, tons of missing shortcuts, etc.

FWIW, they have added a lot of missing shortcuts in the last few years. Haven't used Windows Excel in ages, though, so I'm not sure what's still missing. That being said, Excel for Mac has gotten slower in a recent update. And the UI text, which already kinda looked crummy and not very Mac-like, now looks even less Mac-like.

But Excel is the lingua franca of business, so I keep on using it.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by xattt » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:00 PM UTC

walterbell wrote: post #18

Can you pay to use the app for only one or two months? Or does it requiring subscribing and cancelling?

Some universities offer basic Office 365 (Word, PP, Excel) when you are a registered student.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by r00fus » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:01 PM UTC

excalibur wrote: post #8

ghshephard wrote: post #2

The million (10 million? 100 Million) dollar question that I haven't seen addressed yet (but I'm sure will be, if it hasn't already) - is what % cut Apple is getting from the subscription revenue.

> Users can also purchase a subscription for Office 365 from within the apps, so they can get up and running instantly. This would tend to suggest that Apple isn't getting a cut. Normally when they take one, it's on the basis of funds being transferred via their store, which doesn't appear to be the case here. But this is a massive deal between two of the ecosystem's biggest fish, and I'm sure an arrangement has been…

No, I think Apple will get a cut, but only a marginal one - probably a "better than Netflix" % deal, and definitely not the standard 30%.

Favorability in negotiation terms usually tend to be proportional to the size of the parties involved.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by scarface74 » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:12 PM UTC

kevindqc wrote: post #15

Tomte wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktop Office. Microsoft has been offering a "real office" on Mac for many, many years now. The news is not that Office is on Mac, it's that it is distributed through the App Store.

It's recent that it's the "same" Office though, no? It used to have different codebase (with, I'm sure, some reused code) and even had different release versions (ie: Office 2011 on Mac VS Office 2010/2013 on Windows) I dug a bit and I found this article[1] that says it's now using a common codebase for Office 2016 since January last year, so I guess it's not something new with this new release of Office 365 on mac.…

They’ve been going back and forth between using the same codebase and separate codebases since the 90s.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by scarface74 » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:15 PM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #4

ghshephard wrote: post #2

The million (10 million? 100 Million) dollar question that I haven't seen addressed yet (but I'm sure will be, if it hasn't already) - is what % cut Apple is getting from the subscription revenue.

Does Apple let developers negotiate their fee? I thought it was a flat 30% for the first year and 15% after that?

If you are large enough, anything is negotiable.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by killion » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:19 PM UTC

I'm wondering if it's worth uninstalling Office and reinstalling. If it uses the App Store update mechanism instead of Microsoft Autoupdate I would prefer it. Autoupdate presents a window almost every time a launch an Office application.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by krembo » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:19 PM UTC

Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least.

If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of the users, and if I was on the .1% I would go and buy a PC.

* BTW- Wine 4 was released this week, and they also don't support any of the O365 apps, especially not their 64bit versions.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by tphan » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:28 PM UTC

krembo wrote: post #27

Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…

I use both Office for Mac and Windows all the time and Office for Mac is pretty reliable IMO. They pretty much have feature parity. Which features are you missing?

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by CPLX » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:29 PM UTC

krembo wrote: post #27

Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…

Not sure what you're talking about. I've been using Office on OSX since it's been a thing and it's always been pretty much equivalent. Especially recently.

Re: Office 365 is now on Mac App Store

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 11:30 PM UTC

tphan wrote: post #28

krembo wrote: post #27

Office was available for Mac for many years. The news here is that Office is now in the Mac App Store, not that big of a news. Anyhow, worth noting that the Mac versions of Office are no near to the Windows versions. They are thin clients with only a portion of the win capabilities, and those which exists are buggy, to say the least. If I had a Mac, I would go to G Suite, which gives better capabilities for 99.9% of…

I use both Office for Mac and Windows all the time and Office for Mac is pretty reliable IMO. They pretty much have feature parity. Which features are you missing?

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