Tripling Down Against USA Conference Hosting

Post by allengeorge » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 1:10 PM UTC

cperciva wrote: post #9

noonespecial wrote: post #2

Just the first ripples against the shore of what I expect to be a tsunami of unexpected consequences. Seems like a golden opportunity for another country to step up and become the "conference center of the world". I'd LOL extra hard if it turned out to be Mexico.

Seems like a golden opportunity for another country to step up and become the "conference center of the world". I'd LOL extra hard if it turned out to be Mexico. Can I suggest Canada for this purpose? We're a cheaper conference destination than the USA, Europe, or Japan; have a fluently English-speaking population anywhere conferences would be held (most people in Montreal are bilingual); have good infrastructure; an…

Post by deerpig » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 1:23 PM UTC

FabHK wrote: post #116

I think one good criterion (among others) for deciding in what country to hold a conference is the number of countries whose citizen can enter without visa. There's a list on Wikipedia that you can sort by that criterion [1]. For the USA, it's 42 (what else). Canada, 52. For Schengen area (most of EU), 92. Hong Kong, 148, Indonesia, Cambodia even more. China only 12. So, South East Asia or Europe seem reasonable on t…

Post by arethuza » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 1:33 PM UTC

Noseshine wrote: post #54

jon-wood wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in the UK international students are a big chunk of a decent university's income. Tuition fees for UK residents are capped, while there's no limit to how much a good university can charge Russian oligarchs to educate their children. There are some issues around that, specifically with business departments being disproportionately well funded, but it does mean that other departments also have more money to wo…

I know that the UK situation for tuition is comparable to the one in the US. My points is about universities in countries that don't have that financial incentive and pressure. The UK is just one small somewhat "special" country in Europe. The difference between European countries can be quite high ( http://www.mastersportal.eu/articles/405/tuition-fees-at-uni... ), so my comment wasn't about any one in particular. W…

Post by gm-conspiracy » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 1:40 PM UTC

lkrubner wrote: post #53

ryandamm wrote: post #38

I fear this is the warning shot across the bow of those tech executives who supported this president. First, they come for your conferences. Then, your H1B visa-holding employees. Then...? Innovation thrives on freedom. Freedom of expression, freedom of movement, freedom of markets. And tech, in its best form, is about freedom, rather than market-capture and rent-seeking. Needless to say, none of these recent develop…

Innovation thrives on the rule of law, independent courts and neutral arbiters of contracts, habeas corpus and due process, the right to a lawyer, and the right to uncoerced testimony. Consider Jethro Tull, the farmer. In 1700 he was 26 and he was taking over the family farm. He hired some local hands to seed the fields that spring. As had happened for thousands of years, the workers took bags of seed and cast handfu…

Post by nvahalik » Mon, Jan 30, 2017, 2:07 PM UTC

refurb wrote: post #128

pessimizer wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtually all of what Trump is being called out on has been consistent bipartisan policy, or at the least supported consistently by recent Republican administrations and by every Republican primary candidate, all of whom were openly racist, xenophobic and anti-science. I think it's a good thing. Finally an ugly, stupid face on ugly, stupid policies.

all of whom were openly racist, xenophobic Thank you for taking the first step at bringing both sides together! If we can just convince one side they are wrong and frankly evil, we can start the healing process.