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Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Yeah, so, SHE did not censor those posts. Nor did admins. Sub moderators did. I mean, it even says that in the news articles you posted. And who hates a woman because of something her husband did? That is just gross, medieval thinking.

You should probably check your facts on this.

We could say the same to you?

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Her offering a high or higher number doesn't imply that she was only out for cash. Perhaps that amount was what she considered sufficient to punish KP appropriately. And for the record: Consider this statement as me playing the race card. But look: I wasn't on the jury, and I haven't reviewed the court records, and like everyone else here I'm playing armchair quarterback.

I'm not making any judgements on the case itself; I didn't follow it at all beyond blurbs I heard here on HN and on reddit. However, part of what I heard and just now validated is that $2.7 million is the exact amount that her husband owes in legal fees regarding that ponzi scheme he supposedly ran. If the numbers didn't match up exactly I might have a different reaction, but with that settlement amount it seems enti…

    $2.7 million is the exact amount that her husband owes in legal
    fees regarding that ponzi scheme he supposedly ran.
So, on one hand that sounds suspicious. On the other, I know how quickly the Internet (flash) mob is to pick up torches and pitchforks.

At the end of the day, what are we to do? Trust juries as the final arbiter, when we know that they're not infallible? Trust reddit - same, if not more? Has her husband been convicted of running a Ponzi scheme - or is it merely "alleged"? Did literally none of EP's lawyers think, "You know... that number is too obvious. We should fudge it a little."?

Armchair quarterbacks. :)

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Were that the case she wouldn't offer to drop her appeal for $2.7 million.

Her offering a high or higher number doesn't imply that she was only out for cash. Perhaps that amount was what she considered sufficient to punish KP appropriately. And for the record: Consider this statement as me playing the race card. But look: I wasn't on the jury, and I haven't reviewed the court records, and like everyone else here I'm playing armchair quarterback.

Her husband "Buddy" seems to like penises, maybe Pao isn't a woman at all.

Edit: It's all in the article. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletch...

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Chairwoman Pao owes every penny. She was not discriminated against because she is a woman, she was discriminated against because she is a terrible employee, venture capitalist, and person. She sued Kleiner because she wanted to pay off the debt her scumbag husband owes for fraud. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletch...

Go back to reddit. This comment is over the line. Your other comment in this discussion is even worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9736628

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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This thread provides a nice crash course in the mentality and tactics that KiA and related manbaby trolls and hate groups are polluting reddit/the Internet with. Every act of moderation is Ellen Pao's fault, here's a bunch of unsubstantiated FUD about how everyone who got moderated was innocent and we'll constantly repeat these peripheral allegations about her husband. It's incredibly transparent and shameless.

"Downvote them all, it's the only way to be sure." - Susan B Anthony

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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There've been some rather high-profile shadowbans (hellban/otherwise you're banned but don't know it) issued against people who did apparently did nothing but publicly state that Pao is a scam artist. Given that those comments don't actually violate any of Reddit's stated rules, there aren't many other reasonable explanations. Then again, I called every single one of them liars, publicly, by name, after the recent su…

So, you are saying they did nothing but slander her and are now surprised they were banned?

I think you're unclear on the definition of slander.

To put it as charitably as possible, the facts that came out during the failed lawsuit (and later attempt to get 2.7M out of the company to get her to go away) do not paint Pao in a good light.

Calling her a scam artist is putting it mildly, IMO. Real gender discrimination cases are tainted by this kind of BS.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Dear lord. Are you telling me you believe unsolicited sexual advances in response to any non-sexual thing one might post is desirable to women? News flash: it ain't. If you think that women aren't treated badly on Reddit, go to /R/shitredditsays. If you have a problem with the politics of that group, you need not read the comments. Just peruse the linked posts. A pattern quickly begins to emerge.

I think he just means that sexual harassment is different from "heat", however you want to define that.

To catch heat means roughly the same thing as to catch flak. In other words, to be complained about/insulted/whatever.

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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Chairwoman Pao owes every penny. She was not discriminated against because she is a woman, she was discriminated against because she is a terrible employee, venture capitalist, and person. She sued Kleiner because she wanted to pay off the debt her scumbag husband owes for fraud. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletch...

Go back to reddit. This comment is over the line. Your other comment in this discussion is even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9736628

What line? Which part of the article are you responding to?

Re: Ellen Pao owes Kleiner Perkins $276,000 for lawsuit costs: judge

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The fudging of /r/all is from what I saw, the troll posts disappeared from the front page after about 4 hours but they were all there if you checked /r/all/top. After a few hours, they were all contained in /r/all/rising, every day they're still there. I actually didn't even know subreddits had been banned until I missed a touch on my phone and instead of hitting the reddit front page I hit /r/all on my phone, these…

Interesting. I noticed that the "sympathy" posts disappeared from my front page (mostly from /r/pics) within a few hours. Did they rig things? That would make sense. Frankly it's fine with me. I was worried I'd have to stay off Reddit for a few days until the juvenile hate-mongering died down. I've had to do it before. I'm with the GP. Every time one of these things happen I get more and more uneasy about Reddit. Thi…

Stay on /r/babyelephantgifs. Always.
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