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> There are two ACs on the second floor which we keep turned off because the cool air prevents natural sweating and muscles from loosening. Why do so many supposedly educated people from developed countries have completely pseudoscientific beliefs about A/C? It’s so bizarre and frankly, embarrassing to even read. You will sweat exactly the same as you would at 30% RH at 72 degrees on a cool day outdoors. There’s noth…
Well you got told No, did it anyway and lost the room. Not sure you understood the negotiation part.
Hollow victory. The landlord was probably trying to squeeze some small margin by leasing unoccupied hours. The loss of occupancy is probably a small rounding error. The yoga group now without a space. A major loss for them.
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> I don't do sports but assuming the muscle heat requirement is a thing Metabolism produces heat, human bodies have a complex heat management system, that for reasons of physics, is much better at heating itself up when it's cold, than cooling itself when it's hot. > how does anyone exercise or do heavy work outside in countries where the temperature falls to 18° some days of the year? 18°C is t-shirt territory if yo…
So I hear you say the muscles make their own heat and 18 is plenty warm to not need any clothing beyond what you'd wear for decency (which I'd agree with btw, the times I've speedwalked 20 minutes to a train at 20C and arrived sweaty no matter what I threw off.. that is with a backpack though) Yet the author considers that temperature unworkable for their sport due to muscle heat and sweating requirements. Another th…
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To not be a pushover. The alternative is also not getting what they want: a cold yoga space. So this is probably the better outcome.
What it seems they wanted was hot yoga space. With 2:30 hours of rent... When every single other user of space wanted slightly cold or reasonably air conditioned space. Maybe for good reasons like temperature raising during the day and thus wanting to buffer it more.
This is poorly written with an unclear outcome. This starts as talking about how to make 1:1s more productive. It ends with, I must presume though it is unclear, losing a lease with no backup. This is not more productive. Compromise is about figuring out how to give everybody what they want while letting go of how it happens. Turning on half the ACs is a great compromise. Whatever happened at the end is not. To be ge…
I read it as they already had the compromise in place, since he said they agreed the AC closest to him would be off and the AC farthest from him would remain on, and the other party eventually demanded the close AC be on as well. In this scenario, where a compromise was reached and then breached by the other party, how exactly would you arrive at a "compromise"?
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I think the keys here are 1. It’s not clear who wrote the note, and they didn’t leave contact info or any opening to a negotiation. If the note had said “this AC must stay on at all times, please call 111-222-3333 with any questions - building engineer” that would’ve completely reversed the morality of story for me. But the note asserts authority by making this non-negotiable demand (which is the part that seems patr…
The building's caretaker appeared to discuss the situation 5 minutes after OP disregarded the sign. I don't know that a phone number on the note would have changed anything.
My take on TFA was that the lesson was “adults negotiate with each other, have the confidence to reject offers, and the humility to respect when their own offers are rejected.” Quietly seething about something you’re not OK with is bad—you are responsible for representing your own interests, and expecting somebody else to anticipate your needs instead of expecting yourself to raise them is not responsible and not “adult”. Likewise, expect other people to represent their interests, and expect them to expect you to represent your interests.
Now, given that framing, I’m speaking to the question: was the author acting rightly (responsibly representing his own interests) or wrongly (disrespecting the building authorities’ “rejection” of his “offer” to rent the space, contingent AC control)? I say rightly, because he had no other way to represent his interests.
If there had been a number on the sign, turning the ac off instead of calling the number would have been wrong. OTOH, if the building engineer or whoever is mad that the numberless sign was ignored, well, obviously someone wanted it off (hence the sign), and you can’t expect that person to disappear. Maybe put a number on there and talk to them.
I thought this article was supposed to be about negotiating, but this person doesn't want to listen to or negotiate with anyone. The closest they came to negotiation was when they were doing yoga alone in one room and "decided" to allow a dozen other people in a different room to turn their A/C on. > On these days, I've told them to turn the AC off until we're done. One day, I was the only one practicing and I had to…
I think you missed the point. Any negotiation, from the point of view of the author, was a negative and unfair outcome. He had paid to rent the space for a particular purpose. He had already compromised by allowing a portion of the space to be less than ideal for his use. The other side was demanding “completely our way and nothing for you” given fabricated reasons. He did not care to understand because he could tell…
I think the author missed his own point.
Because he didn't negotiate, he got the most predictable negative outcome: Everyone turned against him.
As for unfair: Did you read the part where he was doing yoga alone in one room and he tried to argue with 12 people in a different room that they also had to turn their A/C off? This was someone who wanted to get their way and didn't care about anyone else. They were put into a shared space where people have to talk and come to an agreement. Instead of talking and trying to come to an agreement, he put his fingers in his ears and tried to control everyone else around him. Predictably, they all turned on him.
I thought this article was supposed to be about negotiating, but this person doesn't want to listen to or negotiate with anyone. The closest they came to negotiation was when they were doing yoga alone in one room and "decided" to allow a dozen other people in a different room to turn their A/C on. > On these days, I've told them to turn the AC off until we're done. One day, I was the only one practicing and I had to…
It is a strange post. He missed the opportunity to work with the other side to find a mutually beneficial solution. Now they have no studio and the other side have their aircon exactly how they like it. This should be a lesson in cutting off your nose despite your face.
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It is a strange post. He missed the opportunity to work with the other side to find a mutually beneficial solution. Now they have no studio and the other side have their aircon exactly how they like it. This should be a lesson in cutting off your nose despite your face.
* to spite your face