Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps • Hacker News Board

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by thfuran » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

jack_pp wrote: post #73

cyberax wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This method of bundling should be illegal in general, as it stiffles competition.

How does it stifle competition / innovation? You can use other harnesses, pay API for anthropic models or cheap chinese models. You're just upset that you don't get to use their VC money the way you want to use it lol. It either is a good deal or it isn't, if it is just say, thanks free VC money, if it isn't say fuck you.

Any service or product delivered at a loss seems pretty plainly anti-competetive. Whether it is actually subsidized to that extent, I’m not sure.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by trentnix » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

For companies that supposedly are worth trillions, Anthropic and their competitors sure have awfully weak moats.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by solenoid0937 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

hbn wrote: post #108

Feels weird to be complaining about this stuff when all of these AI companies are still haemorrhaging money to offer these services. You can say it's inconvenient but it's hard to argue they're being greedy when they do these things to merely lose a little bit less money on every subscription they sell.

Harder to make a spicy article if you can't argue the companies are greedy.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by andai » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:55 PM UTC

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Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by jboss10 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:56 PM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #26

gruez wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the author is using "autocomplete" as a derogatory way of referring to LLMs in general (eg. "LLMs can't code, they're just autocomplete on steroids")

Then the author needs to be more specific because there are special models for code autocomplete that are much faster.

For people who saw this and might want a recomendation, I like running a tiny qwen model with llama cpp. Qwen2.5 coder 0.5B or 1.5B (not the instruct version)

On a modern-ish GPU these should run really fast with little latency. They cost nothing and don't send your data to anyone.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by solenoid0937 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:57 PM UTC

exitb wrote: post #23

bakies wrote: post #6

Think I'm about to switch. I can't build the automations i'm trying to with claude code anymore. Since they locked away the non-interactive usage and channels can't be used without interacting with the console on startup. I had a good web interface for running CC in containers in k8s but I think it's time to bail out and build around a codex subscription and pi.dev now. I have local models hooked up to pi dev and tha…

I'm happy using Codex for alternative harnesses and non-interactive usage, but it does make me wonder when OpenAI will start to squeeze their customers in the same way.

Of course they will. It'll buy you a few months, but if you want stability your only option is API.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by nickthegreek » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:57 PM UTC

dukky wrote: post #94

dukky wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the point is that they've added all sorts of caveats - `claude -p` used to be "using their software", but isn't anymore, even though it's just invoking the same harness non-interactively

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau... Looks like they actually walked this bit back

And their constant flipflopping is why they lost their Goodwill with me. It was too much work just to make sure I wasn't breaking their AUP week to week. They will say one thing and then directly contradict it in a social media post. I was constantly losing features that were the reasons I signed up with them.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by harry19023 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:57 PM UTC

internet2000 wrote: post #42

They're subsidizing their tokens as long as you use their software. That's a fair exchange, I never understood why people took issue with it. If you don't want to get locked in to Claude Code, you can pay more. Just like you can pay more for an unlocked non-carrier subsidized phone. (Which I personally do.)

Agreed. The level of entitlement around how we all deserve to use a product in a category that didn't even exist 12 months ago with increasing performance at the same price forever is insane.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by wartywhoa23 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:57 PM UTC

> To be clear, I’m not anti-AI. I’m only against unethical companies with anti-consumer practices, and the perpetrators behind them.

No need to picture general anti-AI stance as some kind of herecy to be punished by the Inquisition Of The Holy Progress.

Re: Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

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Post by solenoid0937 » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 2:59 PM UTC

phyzix5761 wrote: post #86

There seems to be a smear campaign against Anthropic ever since the DoD incident.

OpenAI has a $8B PR budget. Makes you wonder if they'd spend any of that on social media.

I saw a guy trashing Anthropic on Threads the other day, looked up his LinkedIn and he worked for OpenAI in PR.