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NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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If they use the defence production act, would Dario be even able to resign in protest?

John Cook resigned, so Dario might resign also. But he would make it public, so they won't do it

> John Cook resigned

John Cook?

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, or just ignoring their irrelevant input and knowing what to do.

if you throw millions of tokens at IDA Pro MCP with the right prompt lets just say security by obscurity fails miserably because there is no obscurity when the LLM chews through the decompilation.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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they are doing DOGE-cuts to all of intelligence now anyway dozens upon dozens fired for no reason so US "intelligence" is going to go even further backwards * https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-acting-ch... November is going to be insanity

The NSA is managed by the NSA director, an independently appointed and confirmed office separate from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The DNI does have the authority to restrict funds to the NSA, and sets certain priorities, policy, etc. but the NSA director is not beholden to the DNI and makes their hiring and firing decisions independently. They’re also, currently and historically though not re…

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-haugh-firing-trump-60-minut...

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Serious question: do you think the NSA aren't training their own LLMs? (With or without Anthropic and OpenAI's help) It's a perfect technology for their uses, they get a big chunk of a $100 billion black budget, and they've had access to the research for at least as long as we have.

Serious question, do you realize that the NSA are mere mortals? Do you realize how much it takes to train a model? Does the NSA make their own chips or planes? The NSA buys a lot of technology because they can't make their own.

You mean "Rhetorical question," and I didn't need patronising.

They have at least one pretty vast, largely classified data centre in Utah, with a sizeable chunk of the black budget and they also have pretty large data sets.

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All for a product that has yet to make a single honest dollar in profit for anyone who isn't nvidia. When this goes we might well see a recession. Not that anyone responsible will be worse off, of course.

Why on earth would you expect any of them to take profit so early in the game?

Silly me, expecting a company worth a trillion dollars to make... some money. Any money. A single profitable product.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NSA is managed by the NSA director, an independently appointed and confirmed office separate from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The DNI does have the authority to restrict funds to the NSA, and sets certain priorities, policy, etc. but the NSA director is not beholden to the DNI and makes their hiring and firing decisions independently. They’re also, currently and historically though not re…

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-haugh-firing-trump-60-minut...

> Haugh was fired in April of this year after far-right activist Laura Loomer met with President Trump.

What kind of sick joke is that

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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I said absolutely nothing about LLMs, which is a fantastic tool I'm using every day. I'm talking about marketing.

So let’s say you’re in Anthropic’s shoes. You see that LLM’s are getting better and better, and it’s very possible that they will have some impact on jobs in the next few years, and a very meaningful impact on cybersecurity. Is it more ethical to stay silent about these concerns, as you might have a bit of self interest? Or even if it looks a bit self interested, is it better to warn people ahead of time? I think the…

I think that Anthropic is fully absolutely unethical. And they lied a lot. They were actively trying to make the doom happen while trying to cash out maximally on doom trolling.

If they were actually concerned over social impact, they would try to minimize it. They could have sell their product as a tool to be used to make economy boom, they tried to sell it on promiss to make it shrink for most people.

It really does not matter how much they believed own doom predictions, because they were actively trying to make them true whether realistic or not.

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> they're cops with too much access, it doesn't take a genius to outsmart a cop the nsa has an unlimited budget and spend a good portion of that budget recruiting some of the smartest people in the country. while they dont have super powers, they also arent the town cop who took a 6 month course after high school then joined the force. it does no good to hold them up as mythical figures. it also does no good to prete…

> every math phd i am acquainted with has been approached by nsa recruiters. how many of them took them up on the offer, and how many are in leadership roles? it takes a very narrow range of personality to want to be a cop, which at the end of the day is a government job... the only people they make rich are contractors I'm not saying there aren't smart people working there but it's ridiculous to assume they have an…

> how many of them took them up on the offer, and how many are in leadership roles?

In my cohort? Several, and who knows? The recruitment effort is very visible and intense.

The US math phd market has been a slow-rolling disaster for over a decade. Everyone who can hack it outside the ivory tower is actively looking for the exits.

So why is it surprising that some of them go to work at the NSA?

> it takes a very narrow range of personality to want to be a cop, which at the end of the day is a government job... the only people they make rich are contractors

I don’t think you have context on what math phds are making in entry level positions, post-docs, or adjuncting. I just picked a random entry level NSA role on LinkedIn (doctorate + 0 yrs) and they’re offering solid six digits. There are tenured faculty (post-doc(s) + 5ish yrs) who don’t make that.

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