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MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

As someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?

I see no harm if China use my data. But US companies are actually using my data against me.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…

Epic Games partially owned by Tencent and already was caught of including spyware [0][1] in their launcher, but “Tim Sweeney is the anti-corporate robinhood who will dismantle hegemony of Valve and Apple” is very popular narrative on every western tech site

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19394399

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_g...

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.

Taiwan's official name is "Republic of China".

There are two countries that contain the substring "Republic of the Congo" and everyone seems to be okay with that

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #32
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why you're bringing Taiwan into this, and I don't think TSMC has an app...

The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.

Taiwan is "not mainland China" in the same way that Greenland is "not mainland USA"

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #7

Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…

> You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China.

Don't be ridiculous, all that garbage is VLAN'd off, and my router has strict firewall logging for any suspicious outbound traffic.

I'm sure I can trust my Chinese made router to handle this safely for me.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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This is why im always feeling bad when putting mobile versions of games i love made by netease on my phone. Where i felt especially bad was Dead by Daylight mobile. Persona 5X is not made by NetEase but i still dont have a good feeling about them. I would think they would be more restricted in what they can collect on a Phone OS (android in my case) but i still wonder if there is some way to fully isolate shady apps.

Don’t feel bad.

Enjoy the games and feel good.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Every time a Chinese company does something like this, the comment section is always "but the US companies..." or slightly soften version "but all tech companies..." It's so predictable.

Now, why do you think that might be?

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #7

Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…

This is why I don't mix work and play and have a dedicated machine for games, but this only solves half the problem. It really needs it's own VLAN or to use 'guest' wifi to keep it isolated, but that only solves half the remaining problem. Two easy steps to get to 75% solved, but still leaves a high-powered machine connected to the internet that could be abused, can still listen on bluetooth and enumerate wifi (precise geolocation), and so on. At least this way it's only online for a few hours a day at most. It's the most I can do without investing serious time trying to block state-level intrusion in a battle I can never win.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

> The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

I swear I'm not trying to be dense on purpose, but come on.

Unless _woosh_, in which case well played.

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