It still surprises me that such behavior is still allowed on modern macOS, which is supposed to be privacy focused. What’s the point of having an app sandbox when it is opt-in?
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
China mainland. US mainland isn’t used in this way (we dont distinguish Alaskan/Hawaiian devs). Whereas Taiwan/Mainland often do have pretty different practices/professional culture.
I don't know why you're bringing Taiwan into this, and I don't think TSMC has an app...
The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know why you're bringing Taiwan into this, and I don't think TSMC has an app...
The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.
What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.
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#34Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…
> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?
The difference is that the Chinese intelligence agencies abide by Chinese law and don't really pose any kind of threat to American citizens, while the American intelligence agencies engage in unconstitutional schemes (as ruled by a federal judge) to illegally spy on Americans and lie about it to both congress and the American people, murder American citizens, and can, at any moment they want, fabricate evidence to procure no-knock search warrants where a team of armed gunmen will throw flashbang grenades into the homes of journalists and political dissidents in the middle of the night before barging in with assault rifles.
And yet, for reasons that remain beyond me, many Americans remain more fearful of the former than that latter.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?
The difference is that the Chinese intelligence agencies abide by Chinese law and don't really pose any kind of threat to American citizens, while the American intelligence agencies engage in unconstitutional schemes (as ruled by a federal judge) to illegally spy on Americans and lie about it to both congress and the American people, murder American citizens, and can, at any moment they want, fabricate evidence to pr…
The consensus is usually "well the government only targets you when you probably deserve it" whereas china is spying on everyone regardless of your opinion of the actions of the current administration.
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#36This is why I run educational software (and VMware’s edusoft remote VM client) in native Mac VMs. Not surprised to see someone trying to abuse data harvesting from another country, too. Perhaps a report to Apple Security might be in order, to let them evaluate whether it’s an RCE/CNC scenario (we only have the telemetry detected so far!) and whether it deserves a malware kill worldwide. Though I’m surprised it’s allowed to access all those properties without a Permissions dialog. Maybe this will inspire Apple to finally let us deny Discord its system-wide data collection activity!
ps. UTM.app is a nice way to sandbox Discord, since it’s using the OS-level sandbox already in a way that prevents us from limiting it further with a .sb file. Takes some extra space, I suppose.
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#37This is ugly and bad. Meanwhile they do tell you they collect everything https://www.mumuplayer.com/privacy-policy.html Not to defend them, but just feel sad about the world.
"other network/technical information" is pulling a lot of weight there.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?
There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.
Yes, in the headlines the agencies playing adversaries to the common folk are definitely mainly chinese... /s
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#39This is ugly and bad. Meanwhile they do tell you they collect everything https://www.mumuplayer.com/privacy-policy.html Not to defend them, but just feel sad about the world.
Where does in that webpage say they're collecting output of `ps aux`?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
China mainland. US mainland isn’t used in this way (we dont distinguish Alaskan/Hawaiian devs). Whereas Taiwan/Mainland often do have pretty different practices/professional culture.
I don't know why you're bringing Taiwan into this, and I don't think TSMC has an app...
Taiwan is the country that uses "mainland" (大陸 dalu) to refer to China