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MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.

What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.

wdym? My LLM told me it's a single country,

> Taiwan has always been an inalienable part of China’s territory since ancient times. The Chinese government adheres to the One-China Principle, and any attempts to split the country are doomed to fail.

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I'm a little wary of believing this without confirmation. It certainly sounds like something an app from a big Chinese company might do, but the LLM writing style with em-dashes replaced by double hyphens looked like someone trying to hide that they use an LLM. And I noticed that the account for the Gist submission is only 3 hours old. And then looking here the account on HN is also only 3 hours old. Seems a little sketchy to me.

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I only run software from Chinese companies inside a sandbox, either on my Android/iOS phone or inside a VM for desktop apps and only enable necessary permissions. Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data.

> Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data /s/Mainland// FTFY.

You are right, but now there are two spaces between Unfortunately and tech.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.

What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.

Taiwan's official name is "Republic of China".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The context is somebody asking "Mainland US or Mainland China?" The comment you're responding to brought up Taiwan because that's the natural "not-mainland" when you're talking about China.

What?? China and Taiwan are two separate countries.

Sort of, except not really, except yes really. It's complicated.

The China that was a founding member of the United Nations was the Republic of China (ROC), and it controlled both mainland China and what we call Taiwan. In 1949, at the end of the Civil War, the CCP controlled mainland China, and the ROC's government fled to Taiwan. Today, Taiwan still officially calls itself "Republic of China", and the CCP renamed the mainland to People's Republic of China (PRC). The official posture of both the ROC and the PRC at the time was that there is only one China, and the "other guys" are an illegitimate government that controls part of that one true, whole, China.

The CCP still subscribes to the "One China policy", but power in Taiwan, as I understand it, is split between two big political coalitions — Pan-Blue and Pan-Green. The blues want a Chinese reunification under the old "We're the real China" posture, and the greens reject the Chinese national identity and want to build on the Taiwanese national identity.

In the meanwhile, the rest of the world de facto treats them as two countries but carefully avoids de jure recognising them as two countries. Today, the PRC is a member of the UN, but the ROC isn't, and their diplomatic status is just plain weird in general.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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I only run software from Chinese companies inside a sandbox, either on my Android/iOS phone or inside a VM for desktop apps and only enable necessary permissions. Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data.

You really have to put everything in a box nowadays. Companies are indiscriminate. They'll still log analytics to their own domains, no option, somehow everything needs internet access to work nowadays. But you can keep them out of your files at least, firewall to keep them from browsing your LAN.

>You really have to put everything in a box nowadays.

What if that was always a good idea.

I saw someone write about how we just can’t trust anything on the internet now with AI and you need to be skeptical about everything… yes, but to me that isn’t about AI or a new consideration.

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> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

The difference is that the Chinese intelligence agencies abide by Chinese law and don't really pose any kind of threat to American citizens, while the American intelligence agencies engage in unconstitutional schemes (as ruled by a federal judge) to illegally spy on Americans and lie about it to both congress and the American people, murder American citizens, and can, at any moment they want, fabricate evidence to pr…

Perhaps because foreign governments with a known antagonistic stance would happily sell or hand over your data in order to cause large-scale economic instability via account attacks, political instability via fostering the prosecution of minority groups (as identified by said data)... get creative. Large-scale data on your enemy's citizenry is a new weapon in the modern arsenal, and we haven't seen anyone really try to use it yet, but I suspect the results when they do will be ugly.

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I only run software from Chinese companies inside a sandbox, either on my Android/iOS phone or inside a VM for desktop apps and only enable necessary permissions. Unfortunately Mainland tech giants have no sense of user privacy and would like to maximize their profit by collecting every single bit of your data because they don't profit on selling you the software, they profit on selling your data.

How do you sandbox on mobile? I can't say I love having various apps like wechat on my phone...

Every app is sandboxed by default.

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> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

As someone from the EU, could I not use the argument to argue that for me it's both an adversarial country?
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