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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by scheeseman486 »

fakeBeerDrinker wrote: post #78
jiggawatts wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. I just watched the video. What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance. That’s a fact.

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> "anything other than one of them" can very easily be interpreted in two ways, one of them leading a person to believe that the adult (not a kid) was somehow "MAGA"

Anything can be interpreted in any way you want as long as you're arguing in bad faith

> at the very least, the situation as tense as it was (is?), Jimmy could have chosen to leave it alone for a bit - why say that MAGA is trying to "score political points" at this time? Why not consider that many people are genuinely grieving and upset?

lmao, no one, right wing influencers nor the government, is doing this.

> ABC fired his butt, not the FCC or anyone else. A sternly worded message from the FCC chairman doesn't make a company like DIS fire someone unless it is convenient for DIS. That's a fact.

It isn't "a fact". If a mob goon threatens action on an employer unless that employer punishes an employee, who the hell do you think is actually responsible?

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by gricardo99 »

thepasswordis wrote: post #65
jiggawatts wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. I just watched the video. What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance. That’s a fact.

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he’s clearly commenting on how the “maga gang” is characterizing the murderer. There’s no statement directly about the murderer.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by mingus88 »

Aeolun wrote: post #10

What about what he said was so controversial? It seems entirely in line with everything else I’ve seen happen on these kinds of shows.

This is their Horst Wessel moment. It doesn’t matter what actually happened, it’s just the minimal cover to do what they always planned on doing.

Don’t believe me? Trump literally announced his plans months ago to take down these talk show hosts who were so mean to him

Poor guy :(

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by scheeseman486 »

dismalaf wrote: post #92
scheeseman486 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MA…

"My wife wants to go for dinner but I'd like to eat anything other than fish." Strongly implies the wife in the sentence wants to eat fish. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English understands what Kimmel was implying. "Trying to characterize him as anything other than one of them". <- The implication is definitely that he's "one of them".

That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by disney_ta_2025 »

leakycap wrote: post #2

I'm sure it's an accident and not intentional! A big corporation would never, ever do something like cause a delay so people cool off and don't bother actually canceling later.

Big corporations are made of people, some who post here.

Disney's internal systems for something like this are a hodgepodge of the Hulu, D+/Bamtech, old corporate disney, and some bits sent out to SaaS. There's been multiple layers of layoffs and service ownership changes since the pandemic. I don't think the org would be able to rate limit by faking crashes if it tried.

What is happening is that routes and systems that normally have little and predictable traffic now are getting exercised... a lot harder (the exact numbers are for management to explain). Most things are going to be very resilient to this, as it's not THAT much traffic: It's still a small fraction vs resubscriptions and logins, but not everything is. Since the unsubscribe flows are never going to be anyone's top priority, this things happen.

You don't have to believe me, but I tell you it's incompetence, not malice.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by scheeseman486 »

andsoitis wrote: post #93
scheeseman486 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MA…

> MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them > Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA then who does the "them" refer to?

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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

SoftTalker wrote: post #63
OutOfHere wrote: post #44

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> The FCC chair threatening your broadcast license That's a clear violation of the First Amendment.

Not necessarily. Broadcasters have a license from the government to use the airwaves and they are obligated to act in the public interest. So some restrictions apply to them.

> Broadcasters have a license from the government to use the airwaves and they are obligated to act in the public interest. So some restrictions apply to them.

Necessarily.

Carr threatened to revoke licenses based on the political speech of ABC. That's clearly unconstitutional. Trump followed up by saying licenses should be revoked for criticism of himself. Unitary President cuts both ways.

If this is okay, the next Democrat who's President needs to shut down Fox News and their ilk or be impeached. (From the perspective of fomenting rebellion and generally posing a threat to our republic, Jimmy Kimmel isn't even on the list.)

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by ummonk »

epistasis wrote: post #35
djohnston wrote: post #22

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I suspect they were looking for an excuse to axe and found one. It was all milquetoast, and that entire format of television is dead and the networks know they need to pivot somewhere.

The FCC chair threatening your broadcast license is a pretty good "excuse". There wasn't a public outcry, it was a government outcry along with threats along multiple lines of leverage.

It’s actually a terrible excuse as the backlash is demonstrating. Even if they were about to axe the show all along it would have been a good idea to delay that to avoid the appearance they were caving to government pressure.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #77
thepasswordis wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MA…

> he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true.

I'll put it in the technically true but ambiguously misinformation category. (Which is on every metric better than what goes on at Fox.)

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