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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by thepasswordis »

ummonk wrote: post #82
thepasswordis wrote: post #54

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He never said he was a MAGA supporter but that he was being claimed to be not “one of them”. Given that the shooter came from a conservative family in a conservative town and attended trade school and spent his time gaming, I think it’s reasonable to say that he was a product of the right wing milieu, and not a product of left wing indoctrination as the right alleges.

The fact that you believe this is the exact reasoning behind trying to prevent things like what Jimmy Kimmel did here.

It could not be more cut and dry than this. In fact it is so cut and dry that a conspiracy theory on both the left and the right is that the text messages demonstrating his political motivations aren’t genuine.

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Post by dismalaf »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #77
thepasswordis wrote: post #54

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> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MA…

"My wife wants to go for dinner but I'd like to eat anything other than fish."

Strongly implies the wife in the sentence wants to eat fish.

Anyone with a moderate grasp of English understands what Kimmel was implying.

"Trying to characterize him as anything other than one of them". <- The implication is definitely that he's "one of them".

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Post by andsoitis »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #77
thepasswordis wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MA…

> MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

> Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA

then who does the "them" refer to?

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by 1oooqooq »

djohnston wrote: post #22
Aeolun wrote: post #10

What about what he said was so controversial? It seems entirely in line with everything else I’ve seen happen on these kinds of shows.

I suspect they were looking for an excuse to axe and found one. It was all milquetoast, and that entire format of television is dead and the networks know they need to pivot somewhere.

having experience with a dictatorship first hand, all a censor does is veto milquetoast stuff.

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Post by [deleted] »

jiggawatts wrote: post #60
thepasswordis wrote: post #54

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> was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. I just watched the video. What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance. That’s a fact.

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Post by vlovich123 »

fakeBeerDrinker wrote: post #58
epistasis wrote: post #35

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The FCC chair threatening your broadcast license is a pretty good "excuse". There wasn't a public outcry, it was a government outcry along with threats along multiple lines of leverage.

He was last averaging 129K viewers per episode in the 18-49 demographic, I'd say that is a far better "excuse" than a threat from the FCC. As if DIS doesn't have a legion of attorneys. Give me a break.

I really don’t understand this argument that he wasn’t popular as if that’s at all relevant. Aside from the cost of putting the legion of attorneys protecting a show that’s not bringing enough revenue and the fact, there’s a broader risk with the Nexstar merger that requires explicit government approval that the FCC also threatened.

More importantly, his viewership didn’t suddenly change and the cancellation came about pretty clearly as a result of the FCC threat and not any business decision the company would have made otherwise. Not a lawyer but I would think that Kimmel has a 1a lawsuit he could bring against DIS and the government.

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Post by scheeseman486 »

thepasswordis wrote: post #65
jiggawatts wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. I just watched the video. What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance. That’s a fact.

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How is it false? It isn't making the claim that the shooter was MAGA, but commenting on the right wing influencer sphere's recurring habit of accusing mass shooters of being associated with any group other than themselves.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by ummonk »

thepasswordis wrote: post #91
ummonk wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He never said he was a MAGA supporter but that he was being claimed to be not “one of them”. Given that the shooter came from a conservative family in a conservative town and attended trade school and spent his time gaming, I think it’s reasonable to say that he was a product of the right wing milieu, and not a product of left wing indoctrination as the right alleges.

The fact that you believe this is the exact reasoning behind trying to prevent things like what Jimmy Kimmel did here. It could not be more cut and dry than this. In fact it is so cut and dry that a conspiracy theory on both the left and the right is that the text messages demonstrating his political motivations aren’t genuine.

Are you asserting that he followed left wing influencers or read left wing books or attended left wing classes or somehow got his indoctrination from left wing sources?

There isn’t any evidence of that - there is only evidence that he hated the right wing (and to the contrary there is obvious evidence he came from a right wing milieu - just take a look at his parents). Simply hating a side doesn’t mean you have been indoctrinated by the other side - just look at people who left fundamentalist religious sects.

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