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Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

wvenable wrote: post #16
TrackerFF wrote: post #7

I downloaded Tinder right after I got single, back in 2015? It was glorious. It really did feel fun and exciting - I'm by no means a model-looking dude, but I got hundreds of matches in a fairly small place (think city with population of 50k), and people just felt more genuine and interested on the various apps back then. Next time around I tried Tinder et. al. was a couple of years later(2018/2019), and I immediatel…

The problem with all dating apps is the monetization. If you're truly successful on the app then you're no longer a customer. I really don't know the solution to this problem but until someone solves it all dating apps will devolve into dark patterns.

There is a dating app in my country that doesn’t have the option to chat, if you match you can only choose to meet up or not. If you do, you get to choose from one of the participating bars/coffee shops and you pay a small fee. That fee includes your first drink at the chosen place.

Basically, they monetize by setting people up on dates at specific places they have a deal with, driving customers to these places.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by etiam »

wvenable wrote: post #16
TrackerFF wrote: post #7

I downloaded Tinder right after I got single, back in 2015? It was glorious. It really did feel fun and exciting - I'm by no means a model-looking dude, but I got hundreds of matches in a fairly small place (think city with population of 50k), and people just felt more genuine and interested on the various apps back then. Next time around I tried Tinder et. al. was a couple of years later(2018/2019), and I immediatel…

The problem with all dating apps is the monetization. If you're truly successful on the app then you're no longer a customer. I really don't know the solution to this problem but until someone solves it all dating apps will devolve into dark patterns.

On the other hand you'd think people would flock to an alternative that actually works, while they're searching.

And truly successful in the sense 'never ever need the service again' probably has enough obstacles after the initial matching and dating phase that there could be a fair number of returning customers nonetheless.

Having enough users that could justifiably be called "customer" at all may be a catch of a different kind though. Can't say I know for sure, but I strongly suspect the network effects make it very difficult to attract useful amounts of people to match with to a purely paid service initially, even if it would be readily worth the fees to everyone involved if the system was already established with a large enough network.

Maybe it would have been neat if Musk had bought, and tried to reform, that major online dating service instead of the little bird company...

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by bradlys »

mentalpiracy wrote: post #21
landr0id wrote: post #17

>Anthony couldn’t think of anything that might have gotten his account flagged. Regardless, Hinge didn’t offer an explanation for his experience. It's been a while since I've been on Hinge, but Hinge is not like Tinder in terms of edgy/risque conversation, and I played every conversation with a match safe. I woke up one morning and was banned. They say you can appeal, but this seems like mostly something to make you…

One important detail to add: hinge limits users to one new match per day. This fact also goes into the calculation when grading user interactions.

This isn’t true at all…

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by latchkey »

Kerb_ wrote: post #91
latchkey wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is show me the proof. None of the details of how their app works are public and you're telling me what I've seen from personal experience, isn't true.

Unless I'm missing something, you haven't proved it's fuzzy either though. Many of these apps have a "make this setting strict" switch for age and distance, that makes both of you half right.

Maybe the part you're missing is that we are talking about Tinder from the response to the OP, downwards. We are not fuzzily talking about 'many of these apps'.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by latchkey »

LtWorf wrote: post #101
water9 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s not. You’re either both in each other’s ranges or one of you has the selection that says sometimes show people outside this range

I worked for a dating app. They are scum. Having worked there I could game their algorithms quite well.

#metoo

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by jj999 »

kimbernator wrote: post #80
wnevets wrote: post #34

In general people throw the term shadow banned around too much. Whenever someone's content does poorly on youtube or tiktok they start claiming they've been shadow banned instead of considering their new content isn't worth watching.

I agree this is an incorrect usage of the term. Had they simply been unable to match with anybody but still saw everything as the same, that would be a shadowban. I'm not sure what the correct term is for gently nudging people to get off the platform by making their experience worse.

I don't know how to call it but it seems to be a process similar to Mormon's lost boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_(Mormon_fundamentali...

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by pmg102 »

water9 wrote: post #38
toasted-subs wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One company who owes all of dating apps which decides almost a third of all relationships means they are responsible for almost every negative thing that happens. The job is also a bit too germanic for me, they are effective causing a holocaust.

3 Keys to dating: Workout don’t talk about yourself don’t be reactive.

Maybe don't talk incessantly about yourself. But I think being open about your thoughts, feelings, fears and hopes is attractive.

What do you mean by "reactive" here?

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by Kerb_ »

latchkey wrote: post #115
Kerb_ wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless I'm missing something, you haven't proved it's fuzzy either though. Many of these apps have a "make this setting strict" switch for age and distance, that makes both of you half right.

Maybe the part you're missing is that we are talking about Tinder from the response to the OP, downwards. We are not fuzzily talking about 'many of these apps'.

Maybe the part you're missing from my comment is that you have proven just as little yourself, and there is precedent for both.

Because you want to ignore that and nitpick that I mentioned other apps doing the same thing, as if that prevents Tinder from doing it, I went out of my way to get a screenshot of my own Tinder settings. What do you know? It's right here. "Only show people in this range" https://imgur.com/a/yt34L2b

Upon further reflection, I'm just going with "they were actually correct".

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by latchkey »

Kerb_ wrote: post #119
latchkey wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the part you're missing is that we are talking about Tinder from the response to the OP, downwards. We are not fuzzily talking about 'many of these apps'.

Maybe the part you're missing from my comment is that you have proven just as little yourself, and there is precedent for both. Because you want to ignore that and nitpick that I mentioned other apps doing the same thing, as if that prevents Tinder from doing it, I went out of my way to get a screenshot of my own Tinder settings. What do you know? It's right here. "Only show people in this range" https://imgur.com/a/…

Nice that they finally added that feature. I've been in a relationship for the last N years and haven't looked at the app at all.

So yea... maybe they are actually correct, now.

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