Ugh I just wanted a working file manager
Have you tried ownCloud recently?
Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse
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What do you mean by "not on the web"? It is accessible on the web. Everybody with a web browser can see public posts and replies. For writing new posts, you need an account though. Here is the public account of Mastodon's founder: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron
It’s on the web like Facebook is on the web. I can’t post or reply by creating a web page, and identity is not email or dns, but specific to whatever mastadon instance I register with. I already have a domain, blog, and email. Posts, replies, likes, etc. But mastadon doesn’t work with the web, or my existing web identity - instead it’s entirely based on federated ActivityPub servers plus various extensions.
So get a blog that complies with ActivityPub or host a Pleroma instance with an account that mirrors your blogposts / posts them on the fediverse. Shouldn't be hard.
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Thanks for your work on Nextcloud! I really appreciate what it does. Also thanks for taking the time to answer my rant ;) On a positive note: Just upgraded to Nextcloud 15 without any issues in a few minutes. I feel it's getting better with every release. You put in a lot of work and I recently logged into an Owncloud 8 install and it's a night and day difference. I'm also aware that you owe me nothing. I'm fine with…
It would be more fair to compare the LATEST Nextcloud with the LATEST ownCloud. Both projects are going strong! Nextcloud is more community-focused, ownCloud is more enterprisey.
Hi Markus,
I'd argue the opposite, actually, ownCloud is betting on providing hosting for small and medium businesses, while Nextcloud targets large businesses.
And that is what reality shows. Nextcloud has far larger customers than ownCloud, which breaks down at instances over 50K users. The only large-ish oC setup is actually a bunch of separate universities.
Nextcloud is far more scalable. Thanks to Global Scale, our largest installation has tens of millions of users on a single instance, and customers like the German government (300K users) wouldn't be able to work with oC unless they split up their users and create silos.
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I like your 'vote with your wallet' idea for open source. Want to get that issue to the top of the ticket queue? Pay up! It makes perfect sense.
I want to say Ubuntu does that? Its a larger frustration with a lot of open source projects though. I'd love to throw some money to say thanks, but its either really hard or convoluted. The easiest way I have found so far is with android ones, I just buy the paid versions on there.
That's really a nice, sympathetic idea.
The main issue with that is that it simply doesn't provide anywhere near enough money to pay a real team.
Our forums, for example, have about 17.7k users according to help.nextcloud.com/about
Let's say we get ALL those users to pay 10 bucks per year. Not going to happen, of course - but let's say we put in a lot of effort there. That can pay for 3-4 developers. We have 25. Should we really spend time on that? Or spend that energy on getting a few big customers who pay 100K each?
We have explicitly chosen not to even TRY to monetize any installation under 50-100 users.
That means we don't try to squeeze money out of small businesses and home users (for example by not fixing issues for those users to try and get them to sign a contract). Instead, our incentive is to make Nextcloud easy and good enough that anyone Of course, if community members want to donate or if contributors want to earn a cup of coffee, there's always https://www.bountysource.com/teams/nextcloud But our employees aren't allowed to take money out of that, they have to donate it back to issues they/we care about.
Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse
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The synchronization is a nightmare. The C++ client is hard to figure out, and even harder to maintain as a customized solution. Worse, they don't get the usual benefit of C++ clients being lean and resource-friendly because they now ship with an embedded QT Webbrowser.
You should try the ownCloud client instead. It works just fine with Nextcloud as server and has less bloat than the Nextcloud-branded client. https://github.com/owncloud/client/releases/tag/v2.5.1 Disclaimer: I'm one of the developers of the the ownCloud desktop client.
Of course, you lose support for 2FA, have crappy notifications and activity feed and so on, plus it is entirely unsupported so I'd recommend against that...
Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse
#116As an admin of a 500 user instance I'm having mixed feelings about Nextcloud. Sure it's GPL and free and it got a lot better than the old owncloud mess that broke always but it's still somewhat a gamble. My install is just a no-warranty, non-commercial use case and I wouldn't use it for any large commercial installation without having at least one dedicated and skilled PHP-dev on-site. I came to resent their marketin…
I had to deploy Nextcloud at work for a couple dozen users and it was a nightmare. There was zero response to any bug reports / questions I had. I even tried to get commercial support, and they wouldn't answer. The client is effectively a black box, and we can't even get synchronization to work correctly. Some of it certainly is the fault of me or the users. But some of it probably isn't, and it's hard to tell the di…
Hi,
Sorry to hear about the bad experience, that shouldn't happen. We explicitly design Nextcloud to be seamless for small installations like yours - but if you need support, you can simply purchase it directly on https://nextcloud.com/enterprise/buy/ so you don't need to wait for sales people. We'll fix your issues for sure.
Keep in mind: using a bog-standard LAMP stack is your best bet, but you can always add the 1-day installation help to let an expert guide you through the decisions on how to integrate in your infrastructure. We have hundreds of customers with literally tens of millions of users deployed, so by now pretty much every problem has been seen and can be fixed ;-)
Re: Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse
#117As an admin of a 500 user instance I'm having mixed feelings about Nextcloud. Sure it's GPL and free and it got a lot better than the old owncloud mess that broke always but it's still somewhat a gamble. My install is just a no-warranty, non-commercial use case and I wouldn't use it for any large commercial installation without having at least one dedicated and skilled PHP-dev on-site. I came to resent their marketin…
Similar situation with LDAP as well. The first login of a new user results in a crash. They haven't fixed this issue in 3 months.
Sorry to hear it broke.
Try logging a support ticket on portal.nextcloud.com. LDAP is an enterprise feature so it is an area where we strongly focus on customers and their issues first, and if none of our customers experience this problem it can take a long time to get resolved as we're always very busy...
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All depends on your server and settings and network of course... But the mobile clients could probably do more uploads in parallel, like the desktop client does. Just keep in mind it uploads the original files, not, like eg whatsapp, downsized, compressed one that is 1/10th the size...
Not sure why you’re downvoted - those are legitimate questions. I’m on a local network over WiFi. The “server” is a RPi3+ with an extrernal USB 3 drive. Granted, I don’t expect it to be blazing-fast, but not 3-5 pictures-per-hour slow either. Something is fundamentally broken on the iOS app especially since both the Windows and OSX clients are much faster (same network).
3-5 pics per hour is indeed insane, that is a certainly some bug. Especially if it is iOS specific. Be sure to file the bug with as much info as possible (see if you can probe network activity or just see if the app uploads a file and waits for 10 minutes or something...)
We do very frequent releases so perhaps it'll just be fixed at some point ;-)
Good luck and sorry for the problem!
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Call support and claim your refund. (But I'd guess you haven't paid them a penny and use what they have developed for free.)
Can you show me where I can purchase a support plan for a single user? All their offerings start at 50 users from what I can tell.
Sorry, we don't offer that. We focus, instead, on paid support for larger enterprises, ideally well over 100 users. This way we don't get tempted trying to monetize home or small enterprise users, but instead have an incentive to provide them something that works out of the box so they 1. don't ask questions on the forums/twitter/etc and 2. advocate for what a great solution Nextcloud is!
So, it should 'simply' be good enough for home and SMB users. If it is, we failed, and I'm sorry for that and hope we can fix it!
Of course, nothing is ever perfect, especially given the unlimited ways people use Nextcloud and the hundreds of thousands of Nextcloud servers out there...
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That is like saying ice cream makers should focus on the 'core' tastes, claiming that that is banana and vanilla because you like those. For you calendar and contacts are core for a file sync and share software? Above somebody also asked us to focus on 'core', meaning adding ACL's and probably dropping the calendar/contacts. So it's like the fable where god decides to ask people what weather they want and everyone wa…
> That is like saying ice cream makers should focus on the 'core' tastes, claiming that that is banana and vanilla because you like those. From my point of view, I'm suggesting the ice cream makers should stop trying to make paninis to go with the ice cream and instead focus on making sure the ice cream cones don't have holes in the bottom. I nearly lost all my files because server-side encryption went wonky. That's…
All for avoiding Panini's, but we're a Content Collaboration Platform - and Nextcloud Social fits certainly well in that.
WRT server-side encryption, it gets work all the time, though it is mostly an enterprise feature that gets love when enterprises pay for that. Very few volunteers work on it, if any. Help is of course welcome, in the end - either somebody pays for it, or somebody puts in free time.
This is true for every open source project, of course.
WRT MediaGoblin, no worries, it isn't like Nextcloud Social has all our attention. I guestimate it is at most 5% of our engineering time, if that. That is enough to make it work and improve it release over release, and we'll put in more if there is customer interest or lots of community contributions, but we always start such new things small. Talk started as a night-long-hacking-to-prove-it-could-be-done and now has 3-4 engineers on it full-time, because customers want to pay for it. Which also means it doesn't take away from other things - if we didn't do it, we simply couldn't afford these engineers in the first place. It isn't like they would work on server-side encryption ;-)