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Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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greglindahl wrote: post #106
syntaxing wrote: post #96

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Hmm, I have I only heard about statewide efforts. Even statewide, only a couple of states are investing in this technology (CA, NY, and TX). Are there federal incentives that I overlooked?

Uh, no? Not sure how you thought that my mention of "parts of the US" might mean federal.

I didn't. That's why I asked if there was in order to clairfy any points I might of misunderstood. Unfortunately, the biggest transportation changes are done through a federal level particularly through the NHSTA. For instance, the highways system wash deemed foolish by many but we manage to make it a reality through the cooperation in a federal and state level.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Post by greglindahl »

syntaxing wrote: post #111
greglindahl wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, no? Not sure how you thought that my mention of "parts of the US" might mean federal.

I didn't. That's why I asked if there was in order to clairfy any points I might of misunderstood. Unfortunately, the biggest transportation changes are done through a federal level particularly through the NHSTA. For instance, the highways system wash deemed foolish by many but we manage to make it a reality through the cooperation in a federal and state level.

Ah. That kind of fake "reply" really wrecks conversation -- you left me wondering if you had misunderstood, when instead you were just grinding your axe.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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astura wrote: post #101
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #74

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> "I live in an apartment, I can't charge one, on the street" I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I still can't fathom how electric cars are going to make more than a dent in NYC where most cars are stored streetside.

There's no physical reason why there can't be municipal on street charging, even if it's "pay to charge." Think like parking meters. There just needs to be a demand for the initial infrastructure to be built.

We can't even handle parking meters out here, though.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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greglindahl wrote: post #108
syntaxing wrote: post #93

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There's about 10K supercharging stations in the US. There's amount 168K gas stations. The amount of super chargers is probably about the same as the measurement error for the 168K estimate.

Sorry, what's the purpose of this comment? Tesla has < 1% market share today, so it's hard to imagine why there would be a large number of superchargers today relative to gas stations.

Because the electric car market share will remain as it is without the intervention of the government (in the US). There is no way a single private company can overwhelm the whole gas car industry in its current state. The point of my comment is that the supercharger network is not adequate for the mass adoption of electric cars. The government will need to do more to incentive the growth of the infrastructure.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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greglindahl wrote: post #112
syntaxing wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't. That's why I asked if there was in order to clairfy any points I might of misunderstood. Unfortunately, the biggest transportation changes are done through a federal level particularly through the NHSTA. For instance, the highways system wash deemed foolish by many but we manage to make it a reality through the cooperation in a federal and state level.

Ah. That kind of fake "reply" really wrecks conversation -- you left me wondering if you had misunderstood, when instead you were just grinding your axe.

Huh, not sure how and what I am grinding my axe for? I was genuinely curious if there is a federal incentives provided that I don't know about which is very possible. For instance, for the 3D printing industry there are specific grants (free money essentially) to help small companies federally and state wide. Not sure why you find my intent replusive or with a hidden purpose.

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Post by mythrwy »

Entangled wrote: post #60

Wake me up when I can get an electric two-seater like this [1] or this [2] for under ten grand. No A/C, no windows, no nothing, just a cool buggy to run errands and cruise all day in sunny Florida. https://i.imgur.com/gQDPqOn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tCXxiRm.jpg

No windows, no roof, no fun cruising in rainy Florida.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Post by greglindahl »

syntaxing wrote: post #115
greglindahl wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, what's the purpose of this comment? Tesla has < 1% market share today, so it's hard to imagine why there would be a large number of superchargers today relative to gas stations.

Because the electric car market share will remain as it is without the intervention of the government (in the US). There is no way a single private company can overwhelm the whole gas car industry in its current state. The point of my comment is that the supercharger network is not adequate for the mass adoption of electric cars. The government will need to do more to incentive the growth of the infrastructure.

I don’t see any connection between the numbers and your conclusions.

Re: Electric Vehicles’ Day Will Come, and It Might Come Suddenly

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Post by aphextron »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #74
zizee wrote: post #45

I think that electric car adoption is going to have similar characteristics to digital cameras. I remember playing with an early digital camera and seeing a poor replacement for film, but with obvious benefits. Back then it was common to hear "serious" photographers pooh-poohing digital, and how it's many drawbacks would mean it would remain niche, and never replace film. It didn't take long and digial cameras improv…

> "I live in an apartment, I can't charge one, on the street" I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I still can't fathom how electric cars are going to make more than a dent in NYC where most cars are stored streetside.

It's really not a big deal. Chargers are everywhere in urban areas. I've lived with an EV for two years now with just street parking.

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Post by rorykoehler »

ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #76
stellar678 wrote: post #35

They neglected a huge part of the coming electric vehicle picture: lightweight, slow-speed electric vehicles. Almost 60% of US car trips are 5 miles or shorter. (2017 ref: https://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/ae/work/Job63697.html , 2009 ref: https://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/vt_TRPMILES.html ) Scooters, e-bikes, and electric cargo bikes (not to mention the human-powered versions!) will soak up an enormous portion…

I never thought of that. Are there the same moves in tiny electric hatchbacks (eg kei sized, not Leafs), scooters, mopeds, etc as there is currently in fullsize cars? I'd love a high quality electric moped to run down the shops and pick up milk and bread, or pick something up from the post office. All I've seen is those cheap plastic electric mopeds that people get from eBay/Aliexpress or Costco. I don't remember see…

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