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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by asdsa5325 »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #56
asdsa5325 wrote: post #46

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Not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right. A mac is a status symbol. If you wanted a good system, you could get far more than a mac can give with the same price.

You are repeatedly doing this dumb “Apple fanboys” shit on this thread - please stop, it’s totally valueless. Macs are more expensive than most equivalently-specced PCs. There are reasonable trade offs - things like good support, MacOS support, and build quality - and it’s totally understandable that some people think that’s worth the money. How about more time trying to understand that people have different requirem…

> build quality

Hasn't macbooks been plagued with keyboard issues?

> good support

Limited support from 3rd parties is good?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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threeseed wrote: post #49
asdsa5325 wrote: post #46

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Not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right. A mac is a status symbol. If you wanted a good system, you could get far more than a mac can give with the same price.

Such nonsense. Please show me a laptop with the same quality trackpad and an operating system that works as well with my iOS devices e.g. AirDrop, Continuity, iCloud Notes, Photos, Keychain. And of course one that has perfect driver support and supports apps like Pixelmator and Omnigraffle.

Take a laptop with a good trackpad and install macOS on it?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by asdsa5325 »

saagarjha wrote: post #95
asdsa5325 wrote: post #45

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Why the hell did you pay 2300 for one in 2014? That's so overpriced it's kind of sad that they have Apple fanboys in their grasp so much.

Can you really not comprehend that people can spend $2300 on a computer, or are you just being facetious?

I'd happily spend $2300 on a computer- but not a macbook. $2300 will get you far more power and quality.

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Post by prolikewh0a »

satysin wrote: post #72
torben-friis wrote: post #51

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>To be honest I am fine with pay £700 more for a machine that doesn't develop a problem with the spacebar after 11 days as well as all the other problems I have had. I'd argue that is a bad comparison. You're basically judging them both on a vacuum (since one is x amount more expensive but gives me reliability, that X extra is justified). but putting those two devices in context, if we take a look at earlier models,…

Oh it isn't a good comparison I agree with that. I can't help but be pissed off with Dell though. This isn't the first problem I have had with their "premium" laptops either. I only bought the 9570 as Apple was silent on upgrades to the MBP at WWDC but it has been the worst purchase I have made in years. The MBP may be expensive but I have never had any issues with my previous MBPs so I feel much more confident buyin…

XPS 13 9370 has been the best purchase I've made in years, and Dells customer support really isn't too bad considering they don't have stores in every city like Apple does.

MBP's have their own sets of issues, and aren't flawless either.

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Post by prolikewh0a »

gambiting wrote: post #82
satysin wrote: post #48

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I have a new 15" MBP on order at £3300. I also have a similar spec XPS 15 which cost me £2600. So yes the MBP is £700. The XPS also has a better CPU (i9-8950HK) but that is kind of a waste, I only got it with that because Dell basically upgraded me to it for free. However I have had no end of issues with my XPS 15. To the point that I have had enough and I am returning it for a refund and will pickup something else.…

It's fascinating to me that Dell STILL hasn't fixed the bloody coil whine on the XPS. I have the top-of-the-line XPS 13 from few years back and had the motherboard on it replaced 3 times because of the whine, and it's still there. In comparison, my 2012 Air was perfect, absolutely no issues.

I have absolutely no coil whine on my 2018 9370. It is dead quiet.

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Post by mancerayder »

nradov wrote: post #73
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #8

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> they removed 'user replaceable' for thinness Also better water resistance.

That's a myth. Some of the older Samsung models had removable batteries and good water resistance ratings.

Like the beloved S4 Active. It even came in a camo color scheme, for those more rugged outdoor types. I still have it as a sort of alarm clock/emergency phone by my bedside.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by rsynnott »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #59
pteredactyl wrote: post #28

Cons: Keyboard, Touch bar, lack of ports, cost Pro: Great display. Build quality. MacOS It's too bad all the cons except cost are new to the latest generation ( post-2015 ) MBP.

I’ve been using one for six months - in my experience, the keyboard is awesome to the point that I hate going back to my other, older machine. I reckon there’s been a bit of an unfair perpetuation of this idea that it’s particularly bad, though I accept that some other people have different tastes!

It’s very different. I personally prefer it to the retina MBP one, which I never liked much (and which was a step down from the pre-retina one), but I can definitely see that some people wouldn’t like it.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by bodas »

stupidcar wrote: post #96
blhack wrote: post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

I'd go further and say that Apple isn't basing their hardware strategy on the needs of any real person. It's a laptop with only USB-C ports (and the 13-inch only has two of them). You can't even plug a USB stick into it. The only people who asked for a laptop like that are working at Apple.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by saagarjha »

bla2 wrote: post #102
saagarjha wrote: post #89

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> macOS hasn't improved in ways that matter to me in years What ways matter to you?

Consistent UI, simple and fast built-in apps for common tasks, good unix subsystem, fast file system, pretty text rendering, system libraries that make it fairly easy to write good native apps, etc. macOS has all this, but it had all this for a while. There are so many good things in it. Preview.app is great -- it even lets you do simple PDF editing, while being fast, reliable, and easy to use. CoreGraphics does beau…

Well, if you don't have an iPhone all the iCloud/Continuity/Handoff stuff is going to useless to you :)

But with regards to your other issues:

> The new Photos app doesn't honor mac system conventions.

This is being fixed. Photos eschewed Cocoa when it was first written and then realized this broke everything, so they're slowly adding these things back.

> The Mac App Store is repulsive to me in its philosophy, and its implementation has been inept.

I can't do anything about the philosophy, but there's a new App Store in macOS Mojave that's native as opposed to being webview-based.

> Airpods are cool, but connecting them with my MBP works only haphazardly as you'd expect of regular old Bluetooth headphones, not as you'd expect of Apple hardware talking to Apple hardware.

They're supposed to "just work", based on anecdota gathered from friends. Not sure why they don't for you.

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