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2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#91
It's become comedy at this point.

Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!"

Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

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#92

For the life of me I don’t understand why most developers who work for a company - and get a company supplied laptop - buy a MacBook or any other laptop for personal use. I don’t do any personal development currently. But when I start back on my personal projects, a 27 inch 5K iMac is much more appealing. You get more for your money, a nicer, bigger display, more ports, faster processors (at least for single core tas…

Some people value being able to move their computer.

I feel way too constrained doing a lot of work without at least two external monitors. Preferably three.

But the real estate of the 5K monitor kind of obviates the need for a second monitor.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

This is simply "anecdata". I too touch type, and simply remapped escape to caps lock, the same as the last 15 years, and moved on. I have had a touch bar since late 2016, and have not missed function keys a single time, while I have several uses for the touch bar. I would be annoyed if the touch bar were removed, or the trackpad made smaller, or the keyboard made spongier, or any of the other things that people on he…

>> I too touch type, and simply remapped escape to caps lock

So what about the function keys?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#94

For the life of me I don’t understand why most developers who work for a company - and get a company supplied laptop - buy a MacBook or any other laptop for personal use. I don’t do any personal development currently. But when I start back on my personal projects, a 27 inch 5K iMac is much more appealing. You get more for your money, a nicer, bigger display, more ports, faster processors (at least for single core tas…

Because I want to work on my own stuff on the go and your company owns 100% of everything you do on their laptop.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#95
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It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Why the hell did you pay 2300 for one in 2014? That's so overpriced it's kind of sad that they have Apple fanboys in their grasp so much.

Can you really not comprehend that people can spend $2300 on a computer, or are you just being facetious?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#96
post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#97

That automatic display makes me think about the bad experiences I have with the hardcoded adaptive contrast on my XPS-13 9350. It makes it unusable for pro grade photo editing since the features can't be turned off and the monitor therefore can't be calibrated. In addition, when trying to use the nightlight feature of the new gnome stack, the color temperature swings wildly with subtle color changes on the page cause…

I know Dell released a BIOS update that includes disabling DBC for my 13" 9370. Have you checked the most recent BIOS for a new setting that disables DBC on the 9350?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#98

Has the power supply been redesigned so the cord doesn't fray in 18 months? This has really irked me.

Yes, for me, fraying hasn’t been an issue since they switched from MagSafe to USB-C. Considering a 2014 MagSafe nearly started a fire in my house (Apple had nothing to say about that, but did replace the cable), it’s been welcome.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#99
post #94

For the life of me I don’t understand why most developers who work for a company - and get a company supplied laptop - buy a MacBook or any other laptop for personal use. I don’t do any personal development currently. But when I start back on my personal projects, a 27 inch 5K iMac is much more appealing. You get more for your money, a nicer, bigger display, more ports, faster processors (at least for single core tas…

Because I want to work on my own stuff on the go and your company owns 100% of everything you do on their laptop.

I’m not suggesting using a company laptop for personal projects. But with an IDE up, a web browser for development, a shell, etc. working on just a laptop monitor is painful. I can’t imagine developing an iPad app on a 15 inch laptop.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been using one for six months - in my experience, the keyboard is awesome to the point that I hate going back to my other, older machine. I reckon there’s been a bit of an unfair perpetuation of this idea that it’s particularly bad, though I accept that some other people have different tastes!

Interesting. Maybe I need to evolve.

It's not necessarily that you're wrong or anything! I totally appreciate that people have different tastes in keyboards. I'm just aware that I've heard an awful lot of people talk about how bad it is, without having actually used it – to the point that I was really rather surprised when I started using it and realised how nice it is!
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