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Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by nl »

mahyarm wrote: post #16
barsonme wrote: post #13

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All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

Vs. rapper, or sports player? An IG / youtube star is being a lower-middle class celebrity, which is actually a first in many ways.

Vs. rapper, or sports player? An IG / youtube star is being a lower-middle class celebrity, which is actually a first in many ways

What on earth does lower-middle class celebrity mean here? Where does the alleged class difference come from?

There are many valid criticisms of YouTube/IG stars, but is Michelle Phan really lower-middle class compared to say Nicki Minaj?! Because lots of the private-school mums I know are more than happy to watch Michelle Phan with their daughters but ban Nicki Minaj.

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Post by tw04 »

erikb wrote: post #56
tw04 wrote: post #45

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Correct. But previous generations didn't have adults catering to 14 year olds either. Can you imagine Walter Cronkite quoting "@hotmom2277 says Vietnam sucks realz badz y0" on the nightly news? Me either...

Of course they had. Who do you think worked at MTV back in the day? These were all 30+ years old acting like they were 14 themselves and making good money with it. It just feels natural if all you know is how to act like a 14 year old and haven't been 30 yet to see how weird it looks from the other side of the table.

MTV wasn't considered a serious news outlet at any point in history. Comparing an entertainment channel from 30 years ago to legitimate journalists is a pretty poor comparison - ignoring the fact MTV didn't exist until years after the Vietnam war was over.

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Post by nl »

bluthru wrote: post #77
erikb wrote: post #43

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You think this is different from previous generations? Please. Every generation is like that when they are around 14.

>Every generation is like that when they are around 14. Who were the "idols who don't contribute anything to society" up until the 1940s when "teenagers" were invented? In the grand scheme of things this is still a very recent phenomenon.

Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt

Horace, 20 BC

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Post by michaelt »

fooker wrote: post #86
inimino wrote: post #80

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> They apparently provide value to someone, because they make millions of dollars. I would be careful with that kind of reasoning.

That is more or less the definition of providing value.

Bernie Madoff made millions of dollars without producing any value.

I don't think making millions of dollars is the definition of producing value.

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Post by specialist »

justboxing wrote: post #68
jonahx wrote: post #63

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So you don't see a difference between, say, kim kardashian's instagram feed and what a top hollywood actress does?

> So you don't see a difference between Nope. There is no difference. @jonknee is right. I once met this camera grip boy at a boxing fight watch here in San Francisco. He worked at various sets in L.A., very close to the filming. He would say how he was on Kim Kardashian's "Reality Show" and how the whole thing was completely scripted for shock effect, drama etc. He said "They'd sometime do retakes and tell Kim - "Th…

The last election cycle gave me the idea:

A reality TV show about making a reality TV show.

With The Garry Shandling Show, Entourage, political campaigns (and their documentaries), social influencers, paid placement, Spinal Tap...

Everything's so meta now, I can barely discern fact from fiction.

"All the world's a stage." -- Shakespeare

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Post by sfifs »

maruhan2 wrote: post #79
jonahx wrote: post #74

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Interesting point. I suppose if I press myself hard enough I have to admit that I just don't like what they are doing, and think it's a net negative to our culture, by my own standards. There's always been lowbrow culture and pop culture -- so there's nothing essentially new here. But it seems like its ubiquity and popularity have reached new heights. "Seems" being the operative word, one could argue. I think it's re…

I just personally wish the entertainment industry isn't big in the first place. Movies, music, sports, models, etc. So much money and human resources spent on something that produces little tangible value.

“There are only two industries. This has always been true,” said Madame Ping, enfolding a lovely porcelain teacup in her withered fingers, the two-inch fingernails interleaving neatly like the pinions of a raptor folding its wings after a long hard day of cruising the thermals. “There is the industry of things, and the industry of entertainment. The industry of things comes first. It keeps us alive. But making things is easy now that we have the Feed. This is not a very interesting business anymore. “After people have the things they need to live, everything else is entertainment.

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Post by ikeyany »

pravda wrote: post #30
ikeyany wrote: post #25

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They'll keep the psychiatrists employed for decades, wondering why internet fame isn't fulfilling.

Is any kind of fame fulfilling?

Of course. Though it depends on what you were looking to get out of it.

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Post by ikeyany »

irahul wrote: post #73
ikeyany wrote: post #25

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They'll keep the psychiatrists employed for decades, wondering why internet fame isn't fulfilling.

> wondering why internet fame isn't fulfilling. I feel internet fame is more fulfilling than being a nobody slaving in a 9-5 job. And there is also easy endorsement money which comes with the fame.

I would agree that in itself, working 9-5 is unfulfilling.

But most people see work as a means to a more fulfilling end.

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Post by mezuzi »

Facebook has become a yahoo. Too confusing and the ads are so "intrusive." A couple days ago, I clicked on what I thought was a photo which turned to be a daily-mail news story!!! It was confusing. I never used spapchat, but it kinda sounds like the old facebook which was fun and had a moderate amount of ads.
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