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Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

mahyarm wrote: post #16
barsonme wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

Vs. rapper, or sports player? An IG / youtube star is being a lower-middle class celebrity, which is actually a first in many ways.

Is it the new "featured in the local newspaper once"?

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Post by jedberg »

barsonme wrote: post #13
jldugger wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we talking about millenials, or boomers here? Cuz the complaint seems it could lobbied at pretty much anyone.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

Just replace Youtube Star with Movie star. At least growing up in LA, lots of my friends wanted to be movie stars and rock stars. Some of them actually are now.

They apparently provide value to someone, because they make millions of dollars.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by erikb »

eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

You think this is different from previous generations? Please. Every generation is like that when they are around 14.

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Post by erikb »

vosper wrote: post #3

There's got to be a middle-ground between not going after the money as hard as Facebook, and their customers having no idea whether their spending is achieving anything. They're living in la-la land if they think they can keep the latter up, especially with the bad rap a lot of online advertising has been getting over the last few years. Advertisers need to have some idea of what's going on in the system, and with Sn…

The bad thing about free market dynamics that you don't need to keep up user value once you hit market leadership. You just destroy the competition then nobody has a chance but use you.

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Post by tw04 »

erikb wrote: post #43
eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

You think this is different from previous generations? Please. Every generation is like that when they are around 14.

Correct. But previous generations didn't have adults catering to 14 year olds either. Can you imagine Walter Cronkite quoting "@hotmom2277 says Vietnam sucks realz badz y0" on the nightly news? Me either...

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by erikb »

kneel wrote: post #4

Not sure why people keep comparing these apps. Snapchat is a much more person to person app whereas Instagram is a person to world app. Not a surprise that money would go into instagram.

Because both fight for the same audience: everybody. Whoever wins the game for everybody will beat the other and move it to a side corner. A little like FB and G+. Do you know anybody on G+? So even if it's better for 1:1 you can't use it, because the other 1 is not on G+.

And currently it looks like everybody's betting on Instagram killing Snapchat in that battle.

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Post by irahul »

barsonme wrote: post #33
derefr wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is wanting to be a YouTube channel host really a marker of vanity? It's essentially saying that you want to be an actor, scriptwriter, director and entrepreneur for your own television series. It's the "solo app developer" equivalent for the entertainment industry. Like app developers, I would expect people to get into the business more out of a desire for freedom to set their own hours and not have a boss, than out…

I can agree with the extrovert/autonomy part. To this, though > Is wanting to be a YouTube channel host really a marker of vanity? I'd say it's a good indicator. Not every channel will be like https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4mLlRa_dezwvytudo9s1sw or https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardScientist with funny or informative skits. Sometimes I'll open the 'search' part of Instagram and just scroll through the posts…

> I'd totally do it if I could.

This seems like the root of your issue.

> But it's definitely vanity.

The only people to use vanity as an insult are people who have nothing to be vain about.

Do you cover your grays? Do you wear flattering clothes? Do you buy nice phones? Why bother? It's all vain shit.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by derefr »

irahul wrote: post #47
barsonme wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can agree with the extrovert/autonomy part. To this, though > Is wanting to be a YouTube channel host really a marker of vanity? I'd say it's a good indicator. Not every channel will be like https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4mLlRa_dezwvytudo9s1sw or https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardScientist with funny or informative skits. Sometimes I'll open the 'search' part of Instagram and just scroll through the posts…

> I'd totally do it if I could. This seems like the root of your issue. > But it's definitely vanity. The only people to use vanity as an insult are people who have nothing to be vain about. Do you cover your grays? Do you wear flattering clothes? Do you buy nice phones? Why bother? It's all vain shit.

There are two usages to the word "vanity." The one you're referring to has more to do with dignity (the desire to be respected by everybody.)

The property under scrutiny by the parent poster, though, is (I think) more like "narcissism"—the desire to be perceived as the best person ever by as many people as possible.

The desire for dignity is universal; whereas narcissism is a (rather uncommon) personality flaw.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by hack4supper »

forkLding wrote: post #2

Couldn't read whole article because of paywall but I agree, Snapchat has done certain things to not become Instagram, it will be harder to monetize but it doesn't disrupt the Snapchat personal feel as compared to Instagram's "Social Media" feel where your life is always on display. Moreover, I've started an app, did some questioning and first-year university students don't even add new friends on Facebook anymore whe…

Here is a summary of the article ... https://summarybrew.com/posts/snapchat-s-influencers-are-fle...
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